On: Jony Ive’s first major design since leaving Apple

[lapetitejort]

If PepsiCo (one of the companies listed) ceased production of plastic bottles immediately I would be happy. That is a serious, credible commitment to improve.

[koboll → lapetitejort]

They'd still be responsible for killing millions and sickening billions of people via sugar addiction.

I guess human bodies are exempt from being considered part of the natural world.

[tcskeptic → koboll]

Is your position really that no one should be allowed to produce products that are unhealthy? This seems incredibly invasive.

[wahnfrieden → tcskeptic]

no one mentioned banning and the OP is about recognition not enforcement

[dagw → tcskeptic]

We don't have to ban them, but we definitely don't have to support and laud them either. Tolerate and shame, like we do with tobacco companies, seems like a reasonable approach.

And to disclose my own biases, I'm 100% on team "Full Sugar Soda" and will definitely choose no soda over sugar free soda every time.

[Raed667 → tcskeptic]

We already do this with a bunch of criteria/ rules for food to be sold to humans and animals.

Lobbying and advertisers have just made us think that drinking a cup of sugar is an acceptable option.

[timeon → koboll]

> I guess human bodies are exempt from being considered part of the natural world.

Still this seems to be like moving the goalposts.

[theonemind → koboll]

In the context of regulating or evaluating company behavior, yes, it would not make sense to consider human bodies as the planetary environment.

[ViViDboarder → koboll]

Don’t we generally define natural as not human made? Makes sense then that less humans improves the natural world.

[pverghese → koboll]

Maybe some of us take some resposibility for what we want to eat or drink and dont need government intervention to control it.