On: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

[smoyer]

Bonus points for sending the Unix timestamps in millis ... I hope the lawyer who got this response has to hire a consultant too translate it for the court!

[hn_throwaway_99 → smoyer]

My favorite was their footnote URL!

> The only information Signal maintains that is encompassed by thesubpoena for any particular user account, identified through a phone number, is the time of account creation and the date of the account’s last connection to Signal servers. That is all. [2]

> [2] see e.g. https://signal.org/bigbrother

[otterley → smoyer]

(Non-practicing) Lawyer here. We aren't universally technologically illiterate. Many of us are former programmers, and still are in our spare time.

And those people who help you draft patents for your computer-related inventions? Also lawyers.

[smoyer → otterley]

Of course not ... If you were you'd be called governors ;)

[arendtio → smoyer]

I am a bit skeptical about the precision due to the last 3 zeros for the 'last connection date'. It seems to unlikely that it got exactly that moment...

[pabs3 → arendtio]

They probably reduce the precision to give some plausible deniability in the face of people who have their network connections monitored.