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Agreed. Lenovo has some pretty crappy stuff right now, but they still make the best laptops in the market.

And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line (partially thanks to Ubuntu?).




> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line (partially thanks to Ubuntu?).

From what I heard, mostly thanks to thankless employees at Red Hat who get these machines for work and batter them into submission (by reverse-engineering the hardware and writing device drivers). Lenovo only deserves the middle finger here.

Edit: or maybe it does not. Read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28978330


Well, actually ;)

That relationship has become a lot better over the years. We get early access to new hardware, Lenovo did a lot to get fwupd integrated, etc.

No OEM preload necessary on the business line machines. RHEL/Fedora installs just fine OOTB. Some problems remain, especially with Thunderbolt (docking stations) but that’s not just Lenovos fault, IMHO.

Disclaimer: Red Hatter since 2005


I am torn... Do I thank RedHat for Linux support on laptops, or do i hate RedHat for killing CentOS....


It's not a monolithic solid entity, is it? As I see it, those doing actual work deserve praise and respect (Red Hat does a lot of kernel and low-level plumbing work), while management is… typical management. Same as Mozilla and some other companies.


...for systemd, hate them for systemd!


Love and hate. That's the way of the Linux wizard.


> And let's not forget the excellent Linux support on the thinkpad line

...Unless it has an Nvidia GPU


Fr I wish Lenovo used its position to push nvidia for better linux support and open drivers.




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