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> Let's see: Does the world benefit from a CEO that has built the biggest clean-energy revolution that the world has ever seen but has spoken some shit while they were drunk?

You might have allowed your bar to sink that low, but many of us do not agree with this assessment.

We've had enough clowns in the white house lately, we do not need Elon there as well.




> We've had enough clowns in the white house lately

It's kind of silly to equate inviting someone as a guest to electing someone as President.

But if you think Trump was a problem because he was a "clown" then I'm sorry but you've been distracted by the superficial. It's my opinion that Trump was a bad president—and continues to represent an existential threat to civil trust—but his style didn't have anything to do with it. It was his substance. Behind the clown was some awful ideas and disgusting political strategies.

Equating these two people is just silly.

Trump is a narcissist whose most economically successful skill prior to 2016 was as a "brand" and a television show presenter. He inherited hundreds of millions of dollars and while it's almost impossible to know exactly how successful Trump has been with money, estimates peg his wealth as having grown at a lower rate than the market average. Put another way, with his mix of successful and failed ventures, he has effectively lived off his inheritance.

Elon Musk is a weird guy with degrees in economics and physics, was closely involved in the success of PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX, and has become one of the world's richest people almost entirely from his own work, ventures and investments. Despite this, Elon lives a modest life with few material possessions, choosing to spend most of his time working.


> world's richest people almost entirely from his own work

This is a flat out lie, and we hear it a lot from Elon fan clubs as a soundbite as PR stunts for him. His fortunes have been built by abusing his workers and the conditions around them. And we haven't even gotten to the mines yet.

If you want to follow this clown knock yourself out, but appearances matter and when Elon wants to start acting more mature, others might give him notice.


If you're going to quote me, please quote the entire sentence rather than a fragment that misleadingly chops a list of three items ("work, ventures and investments") into a single item ("work"). That fragment does not represent what I said and is not something I believe.

When read in its entirety, what I said isn't a "flat out lie"—or at the very least it isn't disputed by any assertions you have made. Whether you think his ventures and investments are ethical is a separate question to whether they are the source of his wealth.


There was nothing misleading about that quote, and you're literally one of the last people I'll listen to on here for telling me how to send points across. You are arguing in bad faith if you truly believed that, and your reply confirms it.

You might be able to control language and the dialog elsewhere, that's not happening here.

If you want to follow this clown knock yourself out, but you can drop the glorification of Elon here.


Please don't engage in personal attacks.




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