On: Clean environment could become U.N. human right

[sofixa → blacktriangle]

> They're saying no to a Chinese puppet org (the UN)

That's a strong and outright ludicrous statement. The UN's highest body, the Security Council, has 5 permanent security members with veto powers, which includes the UK and US ( alongside China, Russia, France). So China doesn't have any more power over the UN compared to the US.

> using clean environment as an attack on them while China does nothing to address their environmental impact.

China is adressing their environmental impact - most notably in electricity generation where they're replacing coal power plants.

[z3ncyberpunk → blacktriangle]

China has more renewable energy than any one in the world

[throwaway0a5e → z3ncyberpunk]

And what fraction of their energy is that?

They probably have more coal plants than anyone else in the world too.

Citing raw numbers is pointless when China is involved since everything is so numerous there.

[chki → throwaway0a5e]

> while China does nothing to address their environmental impact

At least it proves that this statement is untrue.

[respondo2134 → z3ncyberpunk]

More coal generation too. All this means without context is that they're big. Their commitment to green initiatives has been extremely toothless to date

[cptskippy → z3ncyberpunk]

And they also have the most lax environmental standards. Green energy is nice but allowing business to dump whatever they want into the environment isn't.

[baud147258 → z3ncyberpunk]

didn't they just built coal power plants across their border in neighboring countries?

[lodovic → z3ncyberpunk]

Does that mean China and Russia approve of making a clean environment a human right?

[respondo2134 → lodovic]

Better this toothless, vague "human right" than any of the more basic, legitimate and critical ones from their perspective.

[selectodude → lodovic]

I would imagine China will demand a clean environment be a human right and then turn around and say they have no duty to help with it because they have been and always will be a “developing nation”.

[cptskippy → blacktriangle]

Don't forget the US, Britain, Russia, and France also have veto authority over whatever as well.

The whole point of this article is that two not China counties are flexing that veto authority and won't hesitate to use it to stop this measure.