On: Why Telegram had to follow Apple and Google when they suspended a voting app

[ryanlol]

Are Element and the Matrix protocol situated in authoritarian countries, how can they disagree

Anyway, no, this doesn’t reflect real usage.

[kitkat_new → ryanlol]

Matrix servers can be hosted by anyone and conversations are decentralized, i.e. can't be taken down easily.

the Matrix protocol is accessible to anyone understanding English and having access to the web.

It is even being worked on enabling P2P with Matrix, i.e. each client can spin up a local server that communicates with others (servers) via Bluetooth and other means of transports even if there is not a direct connection possible

see https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/06/introducing-the-pinecone-...

[ryanlol → kitkat_new]

Doesn’t mean that it’s anywhere near widely enough used to be the “most trusted”.

[kitkat_new → ryanlol]

but it shows that your argumentation to show that it wouldn't be is flawed, and it is certainly possible that more trust is put in Matrix than it is into Signal

[ryanlol → kitkat_new]

I’m not saying that it couldn’t be, I’m saying that it isn’t.

[kitkat_new → ryanlol]

I am not saying it could become either.

Saying that it isn't is a bold claim to be backed up by proper arguments

[ryanlol → kitkat_new]

The original claim is the one which requires evidence, much harder to prove a negative.

[kitkat_new → ryanlol]

the original claim is:

> Signal is the most trusted app in authoritarian countries.