On: SICP is Under Attack

[bartwe]

Who offers a vocational education at an university level? Not everybody who is smart wants to be an academic.

[absconditus → bartwe]

What does your comment have to do with what I wrote? No one is denying that many people really want a vocational education. No one is claiming that smart people should want to be academics. The point is that what people want is not computer science. Civil engineers do not enroll in physics programs and then complain that their physics professors are not teaching them anything about practical bridge construction.

[Apocryphon → absconditus]

Then the problem is with college departments and administration who fail to create separate programs distinguishing between CS and SE.

[zoips → Apocryphon]

I'd argue that that would be a really bad idea. You can't be a good software engineer without having a good grasp of Computer Science.

[Apocryphon → zoips]

There's nothing to stop them from having a lot of overlap. Much like how Computer Engineering overlaps quite a bit with EE.

[saraid216 → bartwe]

Community colleges offer an excellent education in the programmer vocation.