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Considering the military is the worst pollution offender, I'm wary of how they'd handle nuclear waste.


Don't they operate some of the largest fleet of nuclear powered vessels currently operating? Maybe share some of the issues they've had with those (obviously using very old tech). Sub / Aircraft carriers etc. The mission endurance on a carrier is amazing on the power plant side.

260,000 shaft horsepower for 20 years between refueling.

I'd be curious how much oil would need to be burned instead of this (bunker fuels tend to be HIGHLY polluting).


The US Nuclear Navy Force has logged over 5,400 reactor years of accident-free operations since 1955


I mean, you're not wrong (I assume), but you're also just excluding the hours which involved accidents.

The USS Puffer [1], Proteus [1], Dace [1], California (twice) [2], Truxton [2], Gurnard (twice) [3], Hawksbill [3], and Abraham Lincoln [3] have all unintentionally leaked nuclear waste into the various bodies of water [1].

The USS Guardfish managed to irradiate it's own crew enough that 4 of them were sent to the hospital, and later managed to contaminate the submarine again while dumping radioactive resin into the wind. The latter form of incident is described as "quite common" [2].

The USS Aspro [2], Sam Houston [3], etc managed to leak radioactive water internally.

The USS Sam Rayburn "is mildly radioactive when it returns from patrol in February 1984. The Navy says this radiation is so mild it cannot be detected by a Geiger counter. " [3] (whatever that means)

(I make no claim that this is a complete list, or even a particularly reliable list since I didn't check my sources sources or anything like that, the point is there have definitely been accidents).

It's true that "there have been no spectacular meltdowns", but you're also talking about operating in an extremely controlled environments of a ship that you control. I don't think the army is going to have as an easy a time at it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_nuclear_accid...

[2] http://www.chris-winter.com/Digressions/Nuke-Goofs/Refs-70.h...

[3] http://www.chris-winter.com/Digressions/Nuke-Goofs/Refs-80.h...


The US Nuclear Navy Force has logged over 5,400 reactor years of accident-free operations, as far as they are willing to tell the public.

What would be an accident in the civilian space would be a state secret in the military.


With all the monitoring today, if there were an accident resulting in unexpected radioactivity, people would find out.

If you know of a way to hide it, Jong-un Kim would like to talk to you.


1. Not all accidents result in the release of radioactivity.

2. Which non-US agencies monitors radioactivity levels in the air and water in the middle of the pacific ocean, with the resolution necessary to detect a small naval accident, before it gets diluted, or lost in the background noise?

It's obvious that the Navy has not had a Chernobyl accident. It's less obvious that it has had no accidents.


How many reactor-years of accident-plagued operations have they had? USS Thresher and USS Scorpion both sank with all hands lost.


Both instances are still zero accidents from a nuclear perspective.

Both sites have been visited every few years since they were located to check on the reactors. The design on both is working as intended, and no radioactive material has been detected to be leaking from either wreck. US naval nuclear reactors are (supposedly) designed such that they shouldn't lose containment if the vessel either sinks from an accident or is destroyed by enemy activity.


At least for the next few years...


Wasn't the Thresher likely sunk by an electrical fault causing the reactor to automatically shut down, followed by an inability to blow the ballast tanks and rise to the surface?


Look up "Hanford Site".


to be fair Hanford dates back to the Manhattan Project. wWe have learned allot about containment in the intervening 80 years since ww2. Like don't mix chemical weapons waste with nuclear waste and throw it in a single walled container that is prone to corrosion.




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