On: Welcoming our first riders in San Francisco

[shadowgovt]

Level 5 isn't feasible as much for legal reasons as technical ones.

I don't think any company wants to sign off on the notion that their software will handle all classes of problem, even ones they have no data for at all.

[ra7 → shadowgovt]

Except Tesla, who are going to be "L5 by the end of the year" every year!

[Bukhmanizer → ra7]

I’m pretty sure Tesla’s whole strategy is to overpromise so much it’s as much a legal liability to not have L5 than to have L5.

[minsc__and__boo → Bukhmanizer]

Tesla brand sells a lifestyle at this point, not just a vehicle. They have to keep pumping it.

[espadrine → shadowgovt]

> Level 5 isn't feasible as much for legal reasons as technical ones.

That point is taken into account under J3016_202104 § 8.8:

“There are technical and practical considerations that mitigate the literal meaning of the stipulation that a Level 5 ADS must be capable of ‘operating the vehicle on-road anywhere that a typically skilled human driver can reasonably operate a conventional vehicle,’ which might otherwise be impossible to achieve. For example, an ADS-equipped vehicle that is capable of operating a vehicle on all roads throughout the US, but, for legal or business reasons, cannot operate the vehicle across the borders in Canada or Mexico can still be considered Level 5, even if geo-fenced to operate only within the U.S.”.