Still a reminder that any Google services & features I rely on could be axed at any minute. It's been a couple of years that I've sworn off trying out any new Google Services. I used to look forward to their product releases, now I view them as a ticking liability where any time investments could be lost at their whims forcing you to scramble and find alternatives.
Fi numbers are actually hosted by T-Mobile and show up as mobile, not voip by all carrier lookup services I have seen.
I had an argument (via email) with a POS provider whose time and attendance system were used by my client. I said I need SOH report (in NY you get special pay if you work more than 10 hrs in one day).
They said they don’t have this report, but we could switch over to their payroll service, where they do offer this report.
Adolescent companies just won’t step out of their lane, even when they collect data which is necessary for compliance with the law.
Hmmm. What’s going on? Young and impervious to reason. Old and careless.
edit: I got a 2FA code earlier today from Amazon so it's definitely working through the app on my phone and desktop (in case there was any confusion about that)
2. My totally uniformed speculation is this has more to do with Google's own numbers being flagged as spam by telecom carriers, rather than Google Voice not being able to detect spam itself.
What a timing on my decision. Should I move my 2FA number to something else?
EDIT: Seems they did send an email about 2 weeks before the change.
Whether or not they successfully got those emails to somewhere you saw them or not, and whether a month is enough notice for upending your SMS strategy are both good questions though, I suppose.
“Important: In light of spam causing potential issues with SMS forwarding, text message forwarding to linked numbers will stop on or after August 1."
Only appears in the English version of the notes. I have not tested if it still works on non US Google accounts. Is there still something like US vs non US Google accounts?
Twilio's also great because I can set it up to answer known 2FA voice calls and hit the # button automatically to confirm.
I also use it to play endless loops of hold music for unscheduled calls to teach businesses to stop calling me without making an appointment and e-mail me instead.
I feel ya. I have a public line that does the same thing, but instead if you call or text it just lets you know that I'll contact them, not the other way around.
Question: why do you not terminate the call? Do you not get charged for the usage if you make them hold?
It's only something like $0.0085/min. On their end though if someone stays on hold for 15 minutes it wastes the company's 15 minutes worth of that person's salary time and they learn to not do it again.
Nothing beats a confused, talkative old man, when it comes to wasting a caller's time.
I'm sure you could adapt the files / logic.
(If you love hearing telemarketers experience stress and annoyance, search for lenny examples youtube...)
Yet another Voip.ms customer here - I can only guess that's voicemail transcription, a feature I've been using (and evangelizing) for months now. Every message is transcribed and emailed to me, with a confidence level of accuracy, and even the original audio so I can verify or listen myself.
Considering how many features they've rolled out, I can only imagine how easy it could be to miss though.
Another mentioned on HN recently is https://www.unlistedmobile.com/
What in particular are you doing, and how much does that cost?
Alternatively you can use TokTiv a free (limited number of users) PBX from an Indian company that relies on Twilio numbers: https://www.toktiv.com/
I’ve been using it for a year. It’s been buggy at times but improving.
I can’t find the page now, but I’m pretty sure at one point they had a page saying you shouldn’t use it to receive 2FA codes. It’s very common for 2FA systems to blacklist numbers that are known to be used by providers like Twilio.
As far as I am aware, the only reliable way to receive 2FA over SMS is to have a real phone plan.
(Obviously SMS is a poor choice for 2FA in the first place, but sometimes there’s no other option.)
Trusting Google with such an absolutely critical aspect of one's life is lunacy.
I think they have something similar for 45$.
I get freaking Stadia ads in my real inbox just because I opened that website while logged into my Google account once, but Voice has no way to recognize the email address that every single other Google service is capable of sending email to.
Voice is no longer my primary phone number for obvious reasons if you know me at all, but basically it no longer has SMS support for me, so my last major use of a Google service will end if they do not fix it.
Edit: I guess that's actually the normal way of using GV! For weird personal reasons I'm using GV without a linked number, and I still receive SMSes at GV.
That's not weird at all. I've always used Google Voice on its own, without forwarding calls/messages to a "real" number. By abstracting my phone onto a web app, I had the benefits of Handoff years before Apple introduced it.
That's interesting. I thought Google felt like they were quite good at squashing spam.
While their overzealousness is annoying, at least you still have the message in the spam folder.
There is no SMS spam folder, so they'd have to drop messages they think of as spam.
What the hell happened, Gmail spam team?!