I understand this desire especially today. Less driven by lack of equal rights/access to education.
But more that I think we've lost a lot of community and the built in 'family' that LGBTQ people build together, often because of rejection from biological family which is becoming far less common.
With the mainstreaming of gay culture we've lost gayborhoods and our spaces have been opened up. Plus with more acceptance non-queer spaces are more accommodating too.
I personally think increasingly appropriated & co-opted. by straight white women in particular e.g. obnoxious bachelorette parties who treat our spaces as zoos and us as animals: honnnnney yasss queen vomiting on drag queens without tipping behavior lol.
Lesbian spaces have basically disappeared even in NYC there are only a couple left.
Funny, this describes the immigrant experience pretty well too. First generations struggle to fit in and are forced to build strong communities, but after one or two generations, they are comfortable and accepted in the mainstream culture (sometimes).
I had never thought of LGBT as immigrants to their own country.
I think it's more than struggle to fit in though, just like immigrants it was (is in some places) active discrimination and exclusion.
It's funny the amount of people who identify as Irish or Italian that just a few generations later treat the new ostracized communities with discrimination just like their ancestors were.
I've seen a lesbian club handle this by have some nights as "lesbian only" (policed by "face control" aka the door bitch and bouncer) and other nights as mixed. It seemed to strike a good balance between mixing the tribes and creating a safe space.
Yeah I've also seen some fundraisers on Instagram. Here in Denver where I live there is one kind of lesbian coffee shop bar place, which seems to do ok.
The gender discrimination at the door thing is interesting. I personally enjoy European bars that are men only (though many for sex purposes) since there are also plenty of other open-to-all spaces.
But more that I think we've lost a lot of community and the built in 'family' that LGBTQ people build together, often because of rejection from biological family which is becoming far less common.
With the mainstreaming of gay culture we've lost gayborhoods and our spaces have been opened up. Plus with more acceptance non-queer spaces are more accommodating too.
I personally think increasingly appropriated & co-opted. by straight white women in particular e.g. obnoxious bachelorette parties who treat our spaces as zoos and us as animals: honnnnney yasss queen vomiting on drag queens without tipping behavior lol.
Lesbian spaces have basically disappeared even in NYC there are only a couple left.