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An interesting anecdote, but I've never understood why anyone would willingly drive a car (electric or otherwise) such a long distance. The longest I've ever driven in a single trip was a bit over 750 km, and I think I slept for 16 hours straight after I arrived. The next time I took that same trip, I rode the train instead.



Sometimes the train trip is absolute hell e.g. you need to switch a lot with significant delay inbetween, and the trip ends up significantly longer by car.

You can use the train trip to read (or sleep if you can do that, I can't) but you also can't really put your music or podcasts and you have to deal with other people. The train changes can also be very stressful.

Then there's traveling at your destination, if you need a car at your arrival the advantage of the train plummet, whether you need to rent one (which is expensive) or borrow one (which imposes on your hosts).

FWIW that's exactly why despite being in europe after years of taking the train when I go back to see my family I ended up now renting a car instead (I usually live car-free):

* both my own home and my family are a bit out-of-the-way, there's public transport (though not ideal) around my own home but none at the destination so I'd need to impose e.g. be fetched at the train station, with regular issues of delays and friends

* by train the entire trip takes about 8 hours, with 6 transport changes (some rather annoying / stressful), by car I can take a more direct route so it only takes 0530, and I can stop when I want (I usually end up stopping twice and taking between 0600 and 06:30)

* by train there is no real independence unless I rent a car anyway, I just end up bothering to go see the rest of the family, meanwhile renting a car lets me more actively help

* even if I don't rent a car at the destination, the financial gain of the train is basically nil, the train is rather expensive unless I take a slow train and basically need two days to make the trip

* and finally carrying shit in the train is a pain in the ass, both ways, I can easily load presents or stuff in a rental car, and bring comfort food or whatever back, there is no space premium of any sort


Different people react differently to long car trips. I can drive the 1,800 miles to my wife's family in one shot, especially given time to nap while charging and the driver automation taking up the slack for being tired. I can then have a normal nights sleep and be fine.

My wife, on the other hand, being a passenger for such a trip, she arrives and then is wasted for 2 days.

But if you really want to be miserable on a trip... Take a train. My wife and son did that same trip by train a few years ago and: was delayed a solid day by flooding, lost power, had to suffer with malfunctioning toilets for part of the trip, and it cost more than flying or driving (counting hotels).


You probably are a danger to others on the road, yourself and your family. More than 8 hours behind the wheel in a single day is irresponsible.


Am I? Because in another part of this thread we're talking about how terrible EVs are for long trips because they force you to stop so much for so long... Which is it, am I given adequate time to rest, making EVs unsuitable for long trips, or are EVs not terrible for long trips, wearing out the driver? :-)


Key word here is "probably'. I made multiple 16 hour almost non stop trips through Europe, and it's fine for me. LA to San Jose and back in one day, with useful activity in SJ (working in the data center servicing our colo hardware) is almost a monthly routine now, without the need to book a hotel overnight


Survival bias at work.


Isn't '8 hours a day' somewhat arbitary?


It's arbitrary but considered safe by most authorities where such things are monitored, professional drivers are given a bit more leeway,

https://blog.orbcomm.com/tachograph-rules-european-drivers-h...

but when they are caught exceeding the limits they are hit very hard (possibly including confiscation of the vehicle & cargo, as well as massive fines and possibly loss of drivers license). And that's good for everybody, the lorry drivers included, it gives them the expectations of a reasonable work day as well as the improved safety for everybody else and a level playing field. Fraud with these devices used to be rampant, it is getting a bit better now with the digital generation which is more tamper proof.


As someone who has driven across Canada on numerous occasions, it's a special kind of zen. I did BC to Newfoundland by myself, and 16-hour driving days were normal. I listen to podcasts, audiobooks, etc.


Miles and miles of miles and miles.


It also depends on the car, for example, driving 750km with my GTI in a day would really tire me, as it is very uncomfortable. On the other hand, my father’s A8 is very, very comfortable, and I could drive it for 12 hours a day and not feel that tired.




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