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You are looking at things from the perspective of being vaccinated. Yeah you are fine because you got vaccinated. But because you are vaccinated, you now pose a risk to all unvaccinated people because you now have a non-zero chance of transmitting.

In other words, by getting vaccinated you pushed the onus of responsibility onto society.

See how this is a zero-sum game? Either everyone gets vaccinated, and maintains that vaccination forever, or someone is still getting the short end of the stick, and society as a whole loses.

I'm sure you personally feel great for getting a vaccination, but that means literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. But clearly getting everyone vaccinated isn't the focus here, not with this post nor this law. The focus is clearly to feel good about yourself if you are vaccinated and look down upon those who aren't. So I'd say keep ngaf, because as long as lawmakers share opinions like those of yourself, this issue isn't going anywhere.



Vaccination:

- Reduces disease incidence by 8x

- Reduces hospitalisation incidence by 25x

- Reduces mortality incidence by 25x

Source, CDC, 29 July 2021: https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/do... (PDF) p. 3.

Whether or not SARS-COV-2 becomes endemic and chronic isn't clear, though that does appear a possibility. It's been detected in 40% of tested wild deer population in 2021 across four US states:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.29.454326v1....

A persistent animal reservoir in North America, and presumably, other continents, in multiple species (deer are simply where we've looked so far), would suggest a substantial risk of chronic Covid, continuously evolving and mutating. My own very nonexpert concern is that COVID-19 will be with us for at least another 2--3 years and quite possibly well beyond that.

Get the jab already.


I don't see how any of this is relevant to my comment? I never said the vaccination doesn't work


The vaccine massively reduces the major risks associated with COVID-19. Including the risk of transmission to others.

A fact you seem to be quite pointedly ignoring.

Scale and degree matter.

(That relative rates have to be discussed on HN, a site nominally dedicated to fractions-of-a-percentage conversion-rate optimisations in advertising and sales funnels is ... well, it is.)


Yes but where did I say anything to the contrary? If you don't have COVID, there is a 0% chance of you transmitting the disease. Regardless of if you've had it before or not, once you get the vaccine you now have a > 0% chance of transmitting the disease, and it is a statistically significant chance. All you're doing is posting articles that boast the proficiency and efficiency of the vaccine, which I never discounted. The focus here is that once you get the vaccine, you become a transmitter, doesn't matter that you have lower chance than someone who is unvaccinated. W.r.t someone who does not have COVID, they should take the same precautions against those who are vaccinated as they do for people who are not, and my post is pointing out the hypocrisy of the OP who seems to believe that since they are vaccinated, they are somehow safer to be around than someone who is unvaccinated, while to an unvaccinated person who does not have COVID, these two groups of people should be treated the exact same way.




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