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‘Record-shattering’ heat becoming much more likely, says climate study (theguardian.com)
42 points by makerofspoons on July 26, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments



When you look at who's polluting and who's emissions are on an upward trajectory, there's one obvious country that's actively working against the environment. China's emissions aren't slowing down. Coal is incredibly cheap when there's no carbon tax or emission standards. One of the many reasons it's cheaper to manufacture in China and why North Americans and Europeans can't compete [0].

Time to add tariffs on goods produced by states who made the decision of going all-in on polluting power generation, and potentially apply immigration quotas to citizens of these countries.

[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/26/us-leads-greenhouse-gas-emis...


A bloc including the USA, EU, Japan, Canada, Australia, Korea, perhaps parts of Latin America, would be about half the global GDP and a good majority of the world's int'l trade. Acting coherently it would be in a position so strong it would be closer to dictating terms more than negotiating, really. The pessimist in me figures China will peak on CO2 (late 2030s maybe) on their own before we're likely to manage even a credible start at this.


I agree this requires something like the G7 to come together and agree on proper measures. The rest will fairly quickly follow the lead once that’s done. Those that don’t will feel pressure in future trade negotiations, through border adjustments, and so on. Trying to do an all or none, whole of UN approach is never going to get anywhere.


> and potentially apply immigration quotas to citizens of these countries.

What do you propose that would accomplish?


Instill a patriotic feeling?


>When you look at who's polluting and who's emissions are on an upward trajectory, there's one obvious country that's actively working against the environment. China's emissions aren't slowing down.

They sure aren't, as long as the US and Europe outsource their industrial production, pollution, guilt, and blame, there.


I never understood why people seem to not get this fact, I don't know if it's intellectual laziness, a poor attempt at deflecting the blame or a way to cope. We're using them to manufacture all our shit and complain they pollute, no shit....

"My country doesn't pollute so I won't take any blame, it's all China's fault" said unironically while 90% of the gadgets around them are made in China




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