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>way to stay classy greenpeace.

That's a legitimate strategy by activist organizations.

>there’s the PETA Principle: the more controversial something is, the more it gets talked about.

>A rape that obviously happened? Shove it in people’s face and they’ll admit it’s an outrage, just as they’ll admit factory farming is an outrage. But they’re not going to talk about it much. There are a zillion outrages every day, you’re going to need more than that to draw people out of their shells.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage...




> “There’s no such thing as bad publicity” … P.T. Barnum

> “There’s only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.” … Oscar Wilde


I'm not sure the takeaway from that essay is that PETA's tactics are "legitimate". Arguably they are effective (at least in the short term) but it remains to be seen whether the cost of such tactics on society are worth it.


> That's a legitimate strategy by activist organizations.

Maybe. But you’d better be sure you would still feel that way if the ‘activist organisation’ is espousing views you find abhorrent.


So Project Veritas is ok too. Cool, Glad you can agree on that.


> So Project Veritas is ok too. Cool, Glad you can agree on that.

I believe the actual issue with Project Veritas is the highly deceptive edits they make to their targets' statements, not that they falsely identified themselves to get their targets to talk. It's totally consistent to be opposed to the former and not the latter.

Also, your statement is a non sequitur. It's like responding someone who says it's fine to be a vegetarian by saying they must be fine with Hilter and his genocides (since he was a vegetarian too). Sometimes you can trip people up with statements like that, but it's dumb, doesn't prove anything, and makes you look like an ass.


Your previous statement appeared to say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If you’re going to defend Greanpeace for its deceptive practice, it’s hypocritical to say project veritas is bad.


> Your previous statement appeared to say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If you’re going to defend Greanpeace for its deceptive practice, it’s hypocritical to say project veritas is bad.

I drew a pertinent distinction, which you seem to be ignoring. Or are you confusing me for another commenter? I made no statement previous to the one you replied to.

Did Greenpeace edit this interview to do something like give a false impression of what this guy actually told them? That's what Project Veritas often does. For instance, here's a conservative news outlet dissecting the kind of deceptions they engage in: https://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/03/10/does-raw-video-of-n.... The article outlines a lot of deceptive edits in one video, but some of them are particularly egregious, e.g.:

> So after saying that the MEAC website advocates the “acceptance of Sharia,” the video cuts to the NPR exec saying, “Really? That’s what they said?” The cadence is jovial and upbeat and the narration moves on. The implication is that the NPR exec is aware and perhaps amused or approving of the MEAC mission statement. But when you look at the raw video you realize he was actually recounting an unrelated and innocuous issue about confusion over names in the restaurant reservation.

I mean, that's not too far off from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_yJ4QhrAaM&t=57s




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