Central America, where the US has a history of funding politically aligned factions in conflict, contributing to today's instabilities which drive people to our border.
> Where is the excess death?
Mostly Central America, but keeping people in crowded stressful conditions during a pandemic can probably account for a few more.
> To put it succinctly, migrants who enter the country without filling out paperwork, and get caught, end up in one of these places for months-to-years while USG figures out what to do with them.
The US first funds wars in these people's home countries, then refuses to let them in when they want to live in a safer country, then rounds them up and puts them in camps because they came in anyway. That sounds like a concentration camp to me, even if the death rate is lower than other instances of the same thing.
Pedantic attacks on word usage is fun, though. Let me try it:
> ICE, of course, runs an actual concentration camp which has a slightly more troublesome history than the word master.
The history of the word "master" includes the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the institution of slavery in the US, a well known and extremely long running atrocity. That doesn't seem less troublesome than current ICE activity.
But if you consider what is being said, instead of seizing on exact wording, you can see the points that the action of running these camps is more important than the choice of word used to describe a code repo, and that as a form of concentration camp, the camps are bad - not that slavery wasn't a big deal (my facetious straw man), and not that the US are the British and the detainees are the Boers.
A few responses seem to focus on two of the words chosen in that post, and ignore this point about misplaced focus on choice of words.
Central America, where the US has a history of funding politically aligned factions in conflict, contributing to today's instabilities which drive people to our border.
> Where is the excess death?
Mostly Central America, but keeping people in crowded stressful conditions during a pandemic can probably account for a few more.
> To put it succinctly, migrants who enter the country without filling out paperwork, and get caught, end up in one of these places for months-to-years while USG figures out what to do with them.
The US first funds wars in these people's home countries, then refuses to let them in when they want to live in a safer country, then rounds them up and puts them in camps because they came in anyway. That sounds like a concentration camp to me, even if the death rate is lower than other instances of the same thing.
Pedantic attacks on word usage is fun, though. Let me try it:
> ICE, of course, runs an actual concentration camp which has a slightly more troublesome history than the word master.
The history of the word "master" includes the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the institution of slavery in the US, a well known and extremely long running atrocity. That doesn't seem less troublesome than current ICE activity.
But if you consider what is being said, instead of seizing on exact wording, you can see the points that the action of running these camps is more important than the choice of word used to describe a code repo, and that as a form of concentration camp, the camps are bad - not that slavery wasn't a big deal (my facetious straw man), and not that the US are the British and the detainees are the Boers.
A few responses seem to focus on two of the words chosen in that post, and ignore this point about misplaced focus on choice of words.