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What fascinates me are sea mammals. I can’t get my head around how whales and dolphins survive. Their daily fresh water consists of seafood, not to mention having to deal with all of the saltwater that accidentally goes down.



> Their daily fresh water consists of seafood, not to mention having to deal with all of the saltwater that accidentally goes down.

Why is saltwater such a hypothetical problem for them? How are ocean-going fish and shrimp "fresh water"? Those are going to be saltwater too.


Cells contain less salt than sea water, and cell membranes are semi-permeable. That leads to osmosis drawing water out of the cells, drying out the fish.

Sea-dwelling creatures have different ways to deal with this. Most fish can "pump" salt from their blood into the water in their gills, in addition to their kidneys filtering salt.

The other strategy is to eat fish that have already done all that work, after all most animals are mostly water of compatible salt content.

(Freshwater fish have the opposite problem, without active salt management they would explode from osmosis drawing water into their cells).


Not sure if you can safely eat X? Find some other animal Y that regularly eats X and has done so for a very long time, and eat animal Y.

If X has something generally harmful to animals, Y has likely evolved some mechanism to filter it or neutralize it.

Meat is impedance matching for the food chain.


Basically the same reason it is for humans – it puts a lot of strain on their kidneys. I believe that cetaceans are thought to be able to drink seawater as a last resort, but get most of their water from eating fish. The fish don't have the same salt content as the water that they swim in.


Do you find saltwater fish taste saltier than freshwater fish? I think it’s reasonable to say that they are not coursing with salt water.


Humans can survive only on salt water too: https://greatestadventurers.com/the-bombard-story/

It doesn’t sound very pleasant though…

As discussed a few months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26232597


Humans can't survive on salt water, your kidneys need like 1.6 liters of water to remove salt contained in 1 liter of sea water.

If the reverse were true we wouldnt have hundreds of people a year dying on dingies trying to cross Mediterranean. Do you think they never tried drinking water around them?


Water, water, every where,

And all the boards did shrink;

Water, water, every where,

Nor any drop to drink.


Thank you for posting a relevant poem! I realize my day would be improved if that occurred more frequently. It's a good way to stretch the mind in a sea of artless information.


I feel that one of the more worthwhile results of high-school poetry education is being able to remember them later in life when they're applicable.


I bet it was mostly the pressed fish that kept him hydrated...




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