No idea why you are downvoted, other than annoying the TikTok fanatics on this thread with "the facts" and a dose of reality that they seem to be trying to escape from by going into their own world of dancing short videos and community memes which is governed by another "recommendation algorithm" just like the rest of the other social networks out there. Nothing has changed.
Even when there is strong evidence of this blatant censorship and suppression, they (TikTok fanatics) are unable to refute or argue against this fact and quickly downvote us because they have nothing to fight with.
For example, one user [0] in the comments of this post went with a baseless claim that "TikTok ended censorship." and was quickly debunked [1] in the same conversation.
If you believe them, you might as well also believe that Facebook and others 'respect your privacy'; whilst also using recommendation algorithms and graphs at the same time.
I think HN passes the threshold of being a community capable of self sustaining, and now is gradually moving into more like a reddit.
In the sense, that HN now noticeably cannot accept non-conforming or non-positive statements.
I am thinking about creating a HN copy that dont hide any comments at all. The only rule is that everyone has to share his real name and basic social identity (where you work, age etc.). I think people would be more mindful if they risk their actual reputation.
If you want a truly free speech social network, consider using Gab or 4chan. Oh wait, many potential users would find the content there distasteful.
There's no perfect social network out there. The other major social networks are happy to censor too (e.g. Trump, doctors discussing COVID-19 contrary to government agencies, etc) and they're just as bad with privacy too. Actually worse (I've been personally banned from Twitter for not providing a phone number, TikTok doesn't require one).
Not saying TikTok is perfect, but the more friends I add on TikTok the less I rely on Zuckerberg's empire.
I wasn't talking about or looking for "a truly free speech social network". My point is that someone made a wild baseless claim that "TikTok ended censorship" without any evidence supplied to back this claim and it was debunked immediately WITH strong counter evidence.
> If you want a truly free speech social network, consider using Gab or 4chan. Oh wait, many potential users would find the content there distasteful.
A 'true' 'free speech social network' also allows illegal content to be uploaded on there. Gab and 4chan censor content that is deemed illegal; thus they don't qualify for this.
I've tried both Twitter, and Gab and deleted both of my accounts there since the not only the content there was very distasteful, but they are both poor on protecting your privacy.
Disinformation and misleading content is still spreading around on their platforms and to some extent, it seems that Twitter doesn't censor some content that is actually illegal. [0] They seem to think that their community rules are above the law.
4chan will ban you or hide your posts for asking the wrong questions or writing things the "jannies" don't agree with. I don't know about Gab, but 4chan is free-speech in name only, if you make left-wing arguments that are too convincing your posts will be hidden or removed. Happened to me before.
Even when there is strong evidence of this blatant censorship and suppression, they (TikTok fanatics) are unable to refute or argue against this fact and quickly downvote us because they have nothing to fight with.
For example, one user [0] in the comments of this post went with a baseless claim that "TikTok ended censorship." and was quickly debunked [1] in the same conversation.
If you believe them, you might as well also believe that Facebook and others 'respect your privacy'; whilst also using recommendation algorithms and graphs at the same time.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27550717
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27551195