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Israel is known for selling arms to regimes that abuse human rights. Like Myanmar.



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Agreed, dang. I'll abstain from doing that in the future.


> Israel is known for selling arms to regimes that abuse human rights.

Also, for being such a regime.


This is absurdly selective. Are there any arms manufacturing countries, including the Saints in EU and US who haven’t sold arms to repressive regimes?

You don’t even have to scratch the surface. Is Saudi Arabia a freedom loving democracy?


1. Is this discussion about the Saudi Arabian government or the Israeli government? I also have stuff to say about Saudis too but that's not the topic right now.

2. "Oh but, what about <X>"... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

And by the way I am not anti-semitic, if that is what you were trying to imply with "absurdly selective".

Israel has many high value products to export besides weapons. Israel can enjoy prosperity without having to resort to trading weapons with such regimes.


I don’t think it’s whataboutism if every country in the set does it. It’s just a part of being in the business of war. If you sell arms to resolve geopolitical conflict, you’ve eventually got blood on your hands no matter how much due diligence you do.


Do you think not talking about problems will make the world better?

What do you suggest I do instead?

We should talk about problems when we encounter them. The more specific the better.


Why should Israeli weapon manufacturers be held to higher evaluative standards than others? Whataboutism is useless to answer this question; it is a stick to beat your opponents in order to stop pursuing this line of questioning.


Is it not the point of Israel to be a Jewish state?

Judaism imposes duties on each Jew. Religious duties in the form of commandments.

How about following those commandments? If you say the commandments do not matter then you are saying that as a Jew, Judaism doesn't matter. In that case, you don't need a state don't you?

If you want to be free to practice your religion, do it. But do it properly, not only the parts you like.


Completely true, Rwanda (details suppressed by courts), Bosnian massacre... you name it.




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