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What kills me about Android is that F-Droid can't auto-update the apps without rooting the phone and doing some trickery. I appreciate the security measures, but having no official way to appoint another trusted app store is nonsense.


Fdroid will be able to auto update after android 12.

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-alternative-app-st...


That's fantastic news, though I don't know what percentage of apps on fdroid will be covered? One of the requirements is:

> the app that’s being installed targets API level 29 (Android 10) or higher. (Google notes that the target API level requirement will advance in future Android versions ...


Because going into F-Droid and clicking "update" is too hard? You're already inside F-Droid every now and then anyway.


> Because going into F-Droid and clicking "update" is too hard? Yes. The average user doesn't even understand what updates are for and the extra inconvenience for everyone else is just an anti-competitive practice masquerading as a security feature.


If the average user doesn't even understand what updates are, he's better off in the Play Store anyway. Why force F-Droid on him?


Because libre software focus on user privacy among other things, and that isa good reason to install apps from that store


What's anticompetitive is not allowing another app or app store to be sideloaded at all.

Quit being disingenuous.


> What's anticompetitive is not allowing another app or app store to be sideloaded at all.

Yes, that's anticompetitive too. And?


Less anticompetitive is still anticompetitive!


Update your talking points.

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-alternative-app-st... - Android 12 will finally let alternative app stores update apps without bothering the user


That's what's happening _now_. This situation with third party stores not being able to auto-updates has been an issue for years. It is great that it's changing now, but it doesn't invalidate the fact that this was a persistent problem.


Not sure if you're aware, the current way is to tap Update, which downloads the APKs for each installed app. Then, for each app, you need to tap Install, wait 0.1-2s, then tap Install again, then wait until the update is done. I currently have around 20 installed from the store.

This all is to show that Google is low-key hostile to apps installed from sources other than the Play store. Which was the point of the parent comments.


Yes. I'm aware.

I still think you're blowing it way out of proportion.

Show me someone who is aware of FDroid who doesn't have the technical know how to update apps after sideloading FDroid itself...


> Show me someone who is aware of FDroid who doesn't have the technical know how to update apps after sideloading FDroid itself...

My mother, for one. I use F-Droid to let her auto-update NewPipe, since she uses that to download and listen to music in ways that the official application will never let her. Needless to say, NewPipe is not about to be made available on Google Play due to a conflict of interests.


This is not about the know-how, but rather about how Google treats other Android stores.


Which hasn't changed in any way from the day the very first app store could be sideloaded.

Much ado about nothing.


Searchableguy actually linked an article above where it says this will change, finally. (I wasn't aware either.)

https://www.xda-developers.com/android-12-alternative-app-st...


You still need to install and approve the native popup for each individual app update.

If you have more than a handful of F-Droid apps, it gets quite tedious.

I bought a new phone just this week, and I'm looking forward to putting a custom ROM on it in part also to have more control over this sort of thing.


Even with a custom rom you still have to approve a native popup for each individual app update.


Custom ROMs usually allow root access, which lets you install the auto-update feature add-on for F-Droid.


Oh look, stock roms on phones with an unlocked bootloader also allow root access.


I'm not saying it's easy, I'm saying it's an available option in a very limited set of circumstances.




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