> but I think they're arguing that we need our "leaders" to show some "spine"
I was arguing that we can vote in politicians with a spine with respect to doing something about climate change, if the ones we have don't do their job.
I think it is really important to acknowledge how well the political system works, at least in Europe. Politicians largely do what their voters want from them.
Its the voters that don't want climate change legislation. Take Germany: the conservative party did rule now for 16 years, and they are certainly fulfilling their voters wishes by NOT doing something about climate change. Voters of that party don't want that.
> The average consumer doesn't think there is a point in changing behaviour
Unfortunately I have the feeling that the consumer just does not want to change behavior, no matter if it would change something or not. Afterwards, they'll rationalize their decision with such arguments, sure.
I was arguing that we can vote in politicians with a spine with respect to doing something about climate change, if the ones we have don't do their job.
I think it is really important to acknowledge how well the political system works, at least in Europe. Politicians largely do what their voters want from them.
Its the voters that don't want climate change legislation. Take Germany: the conservative party did rule now for 16 years, and they are certainly fulfilling their voters wishes by NOT doing something about climate change. Voters of that party don't want that.
> The average consumer doesn't think there is a point in changing behaviour
Unfortunately I have the feeling that the consumer just does not want to change behavior, no matter if it would change something or not. Afterwards, they'll rationalize their decision with such arguments, sure.