How confident are you that they followed fundamentals in any original setting? "Fundamentals" is just a collection of metrics and patterns a certain class of investor believes in. Usually those with most money and thus, power.
I think you have a rosier view of what drives most of our markets than what happens in reality. Look at the dot com bubbles. Look at how HFT firms make money by exploiting the tiniest of pricing discrepancies and leveraging them heavily. Or perhaps "analyst reports" that can make or break a stock because one person believes something and we give them a megaphone. We switched focuse from present earnings to forward looking revenue. We have stock buybacks. We applied large multiples to financially unsustainable businesses because "maybe one day they can monetize these millions of users with Ads". etc. etc.
The GFC was a game of trying to sell to the greater fool and involved intentional manipulation at the highest levels. It seems the system has been has always had these holes and it was "ok" until regular folks began to identify and act on these opportunities.
We likely wouldn't be having this conversation if another large hedge fund was making the play retail investors are today. We'd read articles talking about the public battle of the billions.
Reminds me of anytime a govt entity creates & exploits a backdoor and is surprised when other actors use the same door for their own activities.
No rosy view - hedge funds and algos follow momentum and copy each other as well. I actually agree with some of your points but was questioning OP. Sometimes I ask questions and present a counter-argument to understand another viewpoint better, not because it’s what I believe in.
I think you have a rosier view of what drives most of our markets than what happens in reality. Look at the dot com bubbles. Look at how HFT firms make money by exploiting the tiniest of pricing discrepancies and leveraging them heavily. Or perhaps "analyst reports" that can make or break a stock because one person believes something and we give them a megaphone. We switched focuse from present earnings to forward looking revenue. We have stock buybacks. We applied large multiples to financially unsustainable businesses because "maybe one day they can monetize these millions of users with Ads". etc. etc.
The GFC was a game of trying to sell to the greater fool and involved intentional manipulation at the highest levels. It seems the system has been has always had these holes and it was "ok" until regular folks began to identify and act on these opportunities.
We likely wouldn't be having this conversation if another large hedge fund was making the play retail investors are today. We'd read articles talking about the public battle of the billions.
Reminds me of anytime a govt entity creates & exploits a backdoor and is surprised when other actors use the same door for their own activities.