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I don't know, I just don't see the point of essentially killing another person.

Is the point revenge? To make sure this doesn't happen again? Is justice = revenge? Questions...

Like I guess my point is someone who is driving drunk is already not thinking logically. You could execute drunk drivers and the rate of new drunk drivers wouldn't change.




For me I'm glad an irresponsible adult who made the choices that killed two innocent people can't do the same to others.

Always amazing to me that people have more empathy for the criminals than the victims.


I have empathy for both. You're not preventing this from happening again. I'm trying to root cause the issue and make sure it happens to no one.


> To make sure this doesn't happen again?

I have been informed of cases where drunk drivers get their licenses revoked yet continue to drive anyways. Should the system just continue to give this individual another slap on the wrist? The system should work to make the necessary adjusts to protect society from these individuals. For some, putting on a breathealyser is enough, while sometimes people start to have their friends breathe into it instead. If there is no other measure that can be taken to prevent an individual from becoming intoxicated and conducting heavy machinery, then I don't see another alternative.

> You could execute drunk drivers and the rate of new drunk drivers wouldn't change.

I'm not sure how feasible it is to make this statement because I'm not aware of anyway we could test the accuracy of this statement.

One field I'm interested in being developed is detecting cars whose drivers seem to be intoxicated with machine vision software. Some cities / countries have enough state-owned cameras in public for this, and you could combine this with IoT spikes in the road or state-controlled kill-switches to completely eradicate drunk driving.


You can however stop punishing drunk driving and watch the number of drunk driving incidents skyrocket. The punishment is designed to act as a deterrent.


Again I don't think someone who is behind the wheel driving drunk is thinking about the consequences of their actions. I don't think the severity of the punishment changes that.

I'd much rather see why drunk driving rates is far higher in the US than other countries with similar laws and transpiration systems.


I don't think I understand what alternative solution you are proposing here.


1. Look at why drunk driving is a much larger problem in the US than other places.

2. Is there stuff we can do to fix the discrepancy in the US.

3. Can the perpetrator of harm in society be a part of fixing the harm they have done, and preventing more harm in society.

I think punitive justice is just the easy way out and never addresses the roots of the problems.

For example, imagine instead of jailing people for 15 years, we used that money to subsidize lyft/uber rides of 18-25 year olds when they were detected to be near bars. How much impact would that have compared to jailing?


Right. So if somebody gets drunk and kills a school full of children with a machine gun then we should ask him/her nicely to not do it again and send him home in a Taxi?


It’s. ot for revenge. It’s to stop others from doing it I think.




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