A few of my favorite things that were brought to the capital. Zip ties, several guns, 11 molotov cocktails, 2 pipe bombs.
Guliani also asked Tuberville to object to every state which if acted on would have required at least 11 days of 12 hour sessions with an armed angry mob outside.
When they finally attacked it took hours to authorize the national guard to defend the capital giving the mob maximum time to terrorize congress.
It we examine the possible failure modes in this situation we can imagine.
- The mob could have slaughtered burned or blew up our congress or enough to frighten the rest into compliance.
- The mob could have destroyed the physical copy of the ballots delaying the matter giving the mob more time to intimidate legislators further.
- The legislature might have lost heart over 11 days of being terrorized by the mob outside and come to some compromise like allowing congress to vote on the matter one delegation one vote allowing the republicans to pick the next president.
This would have only required all of the republican party and 6 democrats in the house to join to enact. They would simply have had to vote with the republicans to reject 36 states worth of EC votes in order to throw the election to the house.
It is foolish to suppose this couldn't possibly have succeeded just because they are very very incompetent. They could never have enacted a traditional coup because the military was never on their side. This could actually have worked if our congress had lost heart.
This was absolutely an attempted coup and we would be stupid to treat it as less.
All of that fantastical story could have happened and still would not have had a diff government. You need consent from a number of powerful stakeholders including the armed forces Supreme Court and all kinds of ancillary players [banks, heavy industry, etc.]
Forcing people under duress doesn’t hold. If you walk up to a bank teller and force them to transfer a million dollars to your account while you brandish a gun, will not be a legitimate transfer and will be reversed when order is restored.
Real life is not like playing cops and robbers. It’s slightly more sophisticated than that but the media is frothing at the mouth with wild exaggeration when it fits their narrative. The CHAZ was hip and cool for all I know.
I cannot fathom how people would think a rag tag coup is realistic in any way. It does not happen that way. Successful coups have powerful interests in the background willing to bite it if it comes to that.
All of the republicans in senate and house and 6 democratic reps could have opted to throw out any number of votes they please leaving no party with the majority of the electoral college vote which would constitutionally required us to hold a vote in the house to decide the next president which would almost certainly result in Trump being re-elected.
Arguably this would be obviously against the spirit of the law but its not clear that 5 supreme court justices would have found that argument persuasive.
If the court and congress comply there is no need to convince the armed forces let alone banks and industry.
For the record the CHAZ was actually nonviolent during the day. Guns should have never been allowed. The shooting happened because drug addicts were fleeing to CHAZ with their stolen car that looked similar to the car that tried to pull a drive by earlier that night and the retards shot them.
Some parts of Seattle aren't really safe at night in the best circumstances.
Still “80” only works when there’s a strongman/woman who rules by iron fist and it’s a powderkeg ready to blow. He or she is surrounded by enemies biding their time. That’s the only scenario where this “may” work.
Equipment is equipment. It can only do so much regardless who has it. As I said more molotovs were thrown during the past summer’s sometimes peaceful sometimes violent demos.
Guliani also asked Tuberville to object to every state which if acted on would have required at least 11 days of 12 hour sessions with an armed angry mob outside.
When they finally attacked it took hours to authorize the national guard to defend the capital giving the mob maximum time to terrorize congress.
It we examine the possible failure modes in this situation we can imagine.
- The mob could have slaughtered burned or blew up our congress or enough to frighten the rest into compliance.
- The mob could have destroyed the physical copy of the ballots delaying the matter giving the mob more time to intimidate legislators further.
- The legislature might have lost heart over 11 days of being terrorized by the mob outside and come to some compromise like allowing congress to vote on the matter one delegation one vote allowing the republicans to pick the next president.
This would have only required all of the republican party and 6 democrats in the house to join to enact. They would simply have had to vote with the republicans to reject 36 states worth of EC votes in order to throw the election to the house.
It is foolish to suppose this couldn't possibly have succeeded just because they are very very incompetent. They could never have enacted a traditional coup because the military was never on their side. This could actually have worked if our congress had lost heart.
This was absolutely an attempted coup and we would be stupid to treat it as less.