I think the name and the logo is good. Don't listen to the people who just keep talking and not helping! Good to see that CentOS cofonder picked this up and now became a founder of Rocky Linux. This shows dedication and rock solid background. Rocky Linux will be a project to follow, help and use in production environment. Thank you for all your hard work!
> I think the name and the logo is good. Don't listen to the people who just keep talking and not helping!
Agreed. It's funny that people here are complaining "Rocky Linux" isn't a professional name and they won't be able to convince corporates clients to use it. Yet, there exists a billion dollar revenue company named "Red Hat" which clearly is a "professional" name.
"Thinking back to early CentOS days... My cofounder was Rocky McGaugh. He is no longer with us, so as a H/T to him, who never got to see the success that CentOS came to be, I introduce to you...Rocky Linux"
— Gregory Kurtzer, Founder
I am not even sure what is going on.
1. The Name has a meaning. As shown in the quote above. And it is tribute / honour to a founder, from a previously well known project ( CentOS )
2. That meaning and the linkage in itself is extremely marketable. Especially to the target audience which are using CentOS.
3. This message explaining its meaning has been there since Day 1 according to Github history.
4. But more than half of the comments ( 150 ) are pissing on its name.
5. Which suggest that either a) They didn't actually click on the link and read anything or b) They dont like name for whatever reason.
6. I will be judgemental, and I am willing to bet those who are complaining about the name has never done any professional marketing or sales for any decent period of time.
Having said all that, they are still entitled to their opinion. But it also shows why product development and marketing based on surveying doesn't really work.
It's widely accepted nowadays, it was pretty weird in 2004. I got my fair share of jokes in 2005-2007 from friends when talking about that "ubuntu" thing, and I'll spare you the examples.
The notorious local news story about a woman who flunked out of college because her laptop came with Ubuntu comes to mind. I think that was in the mid 00s.
Same here. Things that come to mind: Rocky, the champion boxer who can "go the distance" and never gives up... the Rocky Mountains, which are, well, rocky and strong... Rocky Road ice cream, which tastes good.
A zillion times better than trying to explain what a "Suse", an "Ubuntu", or a "Manjaro" is, and that's before talking about the various types of hat-based distros.
Reminds me about how people don't even give CockroachDB a chance because of it's name. Every time it's mentioned on HN, people can't help but to bring up it's name.
I think Rocky is good. CockroachDB on the other hand is an awful name. Cockroaches are only associated with filth and are revolting to most people. Plus, you got that cock in the name which isn’t helping matters. You might think it’s obnoxious that people always point out the name without considering the product but tone deaf branding is a misstep and begs the question: what else are they screwing up if they could get the brand name so utterly wrong?
Many native English speakers don’t realize that ‘git’ is a slur somewhere between idiot and wanker. It’s somewhat comical how mundane the word has become in its new context.
A certain company, a few years ago, came very close to having a Global Information Technology Services department. Fortunately a few Brits made sure their voice was heard.
Ah yes, he was pissed off at the guy that typed in "help" after telneting to a BitKeeper repository, then using the docs that put out to make a clone of the client. Since he had a connection to the Linux Foundation, that caused McVoy to revoke the license for BitKeeper to the Linux community.
Let's face it, idea for using word "gimp" probably came before they figured out what it stands for. Even now when everyone understands what that means and what consequences are behind using that word, there is still a lot of debate around that name and instead of changing it to something more marketable they are stubborn and are sticking to it. They even allow for bigger market fragmentation (Glimpse fork of GIMP) just to not change that name, that's childish.
I think it is bad. You just cannot go to your manager and PR and tell them we are using CockroachDB. If you have a manager who would understand this though, then your manager still cannot go to his manager with that name.
Maybe its a clever tactic to reduce usage at companies that are controlled by non-technical people that are more worried about the name than the technology. Probably has a notable effect on the number of demanding/misinformed issues that they have to deal with ;)
Yeah, sounds like an awkward conversation but I know there's some huge companies using it. I guess they named it that way because cockroaches are believed to survived since the dinosaurs. I guess be the same if you named it BedBugDB, they are hard to get rid for some people too.
But I think some just dismiss it based on the name. I think if I was going to build a startup, it'd be on the top of the list for database choices only thing I really wish it had was Full Text Search and CIText but I guess those will be added some day. I think it's a neat piece of engineering though so far!
Not sure if there are solid evidence established to prove this, but Cockroaches are believed to be capable of surviving large amount of radiations (like from nuclear bomb), hence they thought it would be apt for a geographically distributed DB.
I love it... Cockroaches are survivors. When I was in grad school my lab was in a subbasement in a 100 year old building. We had huge cockroaches...
One of my colleagues caught some and put them in one of our lab freezers and forgot about them. Months later we remembered the jar... took it out of the freezer. Cockroaches thawed out and seemed to be fine... very active, almost like nothing happened.
Other experiments were performed as well... anyhow, cockroaches are hard to kill.
Diatomaceous earth is very effective at killing them. It's fascinating that they're so robust, but just a little inert powder can kill them. Though to be fair, at their scale, it may as well be a pile of razor blades.
One drop of dichloromethane does them in super fast. Their body metabolizes it into Carbon monoxide. A bit of a wake up call for those of us using dcm (our bodies do too, but less quickly)
