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On a side note, why has no serious competitor to Skype appeared? Given the maturity of the tech involved (its just VOIP) and the size of the pie, i'd have thought there would be more competition for a slice.



> its just VOIP

Strength in brand. Most common-folk users have no idea what voip is. You can't compete with Skype by just doing a voip client - if that were true then you would see Google Talk, Facetime etc. eating into Skype market share, and not Skype growing 30% per quarter.

For many people, Skype is online communication and messaging. It has become a verb and one of the most recognizable online brands alongside Google, Facebook etc.


Network effects, mostly. Pretty much everyone in the market has already got Skype, and it works well enough to make switching a greater pain than keeping on using it. And it's entirely unworkable to convince friends, colleagues and clients to all switch over.


its only not happening because there is no better cross platform client. all competitors so far offer less or have more constraints, if skype is not the best offering anymore people will switch.


I believe the underlying tech, Global Index, is patented and valuable. Global Index is the p2p matchmaking software that runs under Skype (and Kazaa back in the day), which means Skype doesn't have to run centralized servers to route call data. Its also what lets them punch holes in firewalls.

My understanding is that their competitors don't (can't?) do this. For example, SIP runs through a central server (e.g., Google's). This allows Skype to run their service more cheaply, and its cheaper to provide service for each marginal user. Its a pretty strong network effect.

So, in addition to their brand and userbase, they do have some tech MS might want and can't get elsewhere.


You seem to be confused about SIP. SIP is the "Session Initiation Protocol", and its entire point is to coordinate initiation of a direct session between endpoints, the so-called "SIP Trapezoid".

SIP is a lot like SMTP. When you make a SIP call, you talk to your local SIP server, which talks to N intermediaries (usually 0) before going out to the public internet. After passing off to the destination server, the connection can go through N intermediaries on the remote side before being delivered to a final user agent. This connection isn't for delivering audio and video, though, it's for coordinating a direct RTP connection to use for audio and video. Once the two endpoints are communicating, they send information about their real network location, work out details about NAT, and set up a direct RTP connection, possibly using STUN to deal with NAT issues. In a normal SIP environment, neither party's SIP server ever sees any of the actual media.

This is all fairly similar to what skype does, except skype has additional infrastructure for routing media through other clients, in cases where two endpoints can't find a way to communicate directly, as I understand it. I'm not actually authoritatively-informed about skype, though, so don't rely on this last bit.


Thanks tene, that's really good info. I was 100% turned around on that - definitely thought SIP had to route the call data through a central server.


My understanding is that their competitors don't (can't?) do this. For example, SIP runs through a central server (e.g., Google's). This allows Skype to run their service more cheaply, and its cheaper to provide service for each marginal user. Its a pretty strong network effect.

This maybe the case for those small VoIP startups, but for big Internet Co. such as Google, Microsoft and other portals who already have big datacenters, this should not be an issue.


Plenty of competitors have emerged but they all have gotten strong-arm tactics from Skype, whether we're talking about the Nimbuzz fiasco or Skype blocking fring, or Skype buying Qik, no competitor has been able to make it easy for customers to make a switch. Qik came the closest (unlikely the others, they didn't need Skype integration due to their deal with Sprint) so Skype just bought them.




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