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Because M1 is their entry-level, laptop class offering.

It makes zero sense to compare them to high-end desktop CPUs and GPUs.




1050 Ti is below entry level at this point though.


The 1050 Ti was the premium discrete GPU option in the XPS 15 in 2018. That only got upgraded to the 1650 last year. Maybe that's as much a ding on Dell as anything else, but either way, lots of us are still rocking those laptops and they're hardly "below entry level".


Nah. I have this laptop too and at the time, the 1050TI was considered underwhelming but "well this laptop isn't for gaming, it's a business laptop". The contemporary Surface Book 2 had a 1060 with almost double the performance and people were kind of pissed.


The Surface Book 2 with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD: $2499.

The new MacBook Air with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD: $1399.

Geekbench: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/4679429?baselin...


Well thanks for posting CPU benchmarks in a discussion about GPUs.


Wasn't the point. I also posted RAM and SSD numbers.


Comparisson could be against either an MX250/MX350 if they wanted to compare to nvidia (however that's not integrated in a SoC-like manner) or the AMD Vega on Renoir, or Intel Graphics on Ice/Tiger Lake (I honestly lost track of what intel calls their iGPUs these days, they went back and forth between confusing naming conventions, but it's the CPU gen/model that's important anyway).


> Comparisson could be against either an MX250/MX350

MX350 is the same chip as the 1050.


The memory bandwith, amount of shader units, TMUs, fill rate, etc is different (slower) on the MX350. While they are surely the same archiecture, the MX350 is lower tier than the 1050.

And in this case, it'd make for a larger difference between Apples GPU and the nvidia. But then again, the M1 is a mobile SoC and the 1050 is a desktop GPU. So we shouldn't even be comparing them to being with.


Again Nvidia had how many yrs of evolution in GPU before they reached 1050 Ti? Everyone starts at some point.


Sure, but if you read the comments here you'd think the M1 GPU was state of the art or something.


>Because M1 is their entry-level, laptop class offering. It makes zero sense to compare them to high-end desktop CPUs and GPUs.

Sure It makes zero sense to compare them to high-end desktop or laptops, since it is used in devices with lacking the main attribute of Personal computer - the ability to control it and install OS of your choice.

Therefore it falls into another category like phones, ipads and other toys just with attached keyboard.


I’m sure I’ll get downvoted too, probably more than you, probably even attracting sympathetic upvotes for your own comment but... I really cannot express how much I don’t care. I’ve booted multiple OSes for learning, for fun, and for software support when the software wasn’t available for my preferred OS. But I use my computer for work (and some web browsing). Other than games, macOS has all the software I could think to need. I don’t like rebooting anyway. I can’t think of a scenario where I would ever need a device with another OS that wouldn’t be supplied by an employer. Some freedoms are sacrosanct (and if it ever comes to pass that macOS absolutely prevents installing unblessed end-user apps which deal only with public and supported APIs, that would be my deal breaker), but some freedoms seem so abstract and theoretical in their impact that I just can’t give them weight beyond a thought exercise. “You can’t install any other OS besides this one we offer that meets all your needs” is just... hardly even a thing I would even give much thought.


You’ll be able to install an OS of your choice on this one, likely (as long as your choice is MacOS or Linux).


Fine, Compare it against a Asus zephyrus g14.


It’s marketed as a gaming laptop and has half the battery life.

Not sure it’s necessarily the best comparison.


Half the battery on a higher powered CPU (the 4800H is 45W and the 4900HS is 35W if I recall correctly), plus a discrete graphics GPU (on top of the iGPU) and active cooling vs passive cooling, plus a 120Hz display on the G14 (and probably Apples is 60Hz).

So a more power-hungry notebooks battery lasts half as long, but still in the double digits. Not quite a surprise there.


Sure. Can we use performance per watt or did you have another measure in mind?




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