On: Apple announces ‘One More Thing’ event for November 10th

[john_alan]

Yeah. I’m a long time Mac user. Like 17 years, I’m keen on it because UNIX and pretty.

I was looking at Arch + KDE plasma and it’s really tempting.

I returned a 16inch MBP recently as it kept crashing on shutdown. macOS on intel is a mess and so is the T2. And I’m a fanboy.

I’ve made a deal with myself. If these new Apple Si machines are blow away I’ll try again. Else I’m buying a Lenovo Legion and moving to Arch.

Not sure what to do for a phone but probably stay with iOS.

[coldtea → john_alan]

>I returned a 16inch MBP recently as it kept crashing on shutdown. macOS on intel is a mess and so is the T2. And I’m a fanboy.

macOS on Intel is a mess because a particular 16inch MBP "kept crashing on shutdown"? As if Windows and Linux running machines don't have cases where they keep running on shutdown?

macOS/T2 has bugs like all software, but this is not some general state of macOS/T2, which runs fine without "crashing on shutdown" for hundreds of millions of other people (including those with MBP16).

How about it's some particular production run / unit, and or some particular app?

(Which can happen for any vendor / OS)

[john_alan → coldtea]

Clearly I understand that.

I had 3 replacements. Each one I could reproduce a hard crash on reboot. There are many many kps.

It’s widespread.

[coldtea → john_alan]

That's fair, that's a lot of replacements.

[eecc → john_alan]

I'm currently waiting (and cursing) Lenovo for delaying delivery of the AMD T14 I paid for in September.

I'm a bit worried for my precious free time that will be wasted on fending off the thousand-cuts onslaught of bugs, but I'm willing to try.

It's gotten to this Tim (and Jony). After ~15 uninterrupted years.