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> Imagine a world in which every article that mentions any American company, receives a torrent of comments calling for

I don't have to imagine it because that's how it is. Heaven forbid we also call out the CCP when they do something much worse!

Can't have any of that rational self interest, either. When China has rational self interest it's smart, but when the USA has rational self interest it's hypocrisy.

CCP apologetics are so lame.




> I don't have to imagine it because that's how it is.

I really don't know what world you live in. I don't see widespread criticism against US non-state companies BECAUSE of their involvement with the US. Even talks about privacy issues are mostly about how those companies could abuse the data, not about how the US govt could abuse that data.

I don't see many people calling for the banning of US non-state companies.

I don't see US students and researchers being ousted out of other countries for being potential spies, even though there's no proof.

I don't see people, who have a US background but living in other countries for a long time, being taken to parliament to unconditionally condemn the US govt before they're trusted as normal citizen.

> Heaven forbid we also call out the CCP when they do something much worse!

Calling out the CCP, and blanket banning all Chinese companies, are not at all the same thing, or even on the same level.


> I don't see widespread criticism against US non-state companies BECAUSE of their involvement with the US.

I do. The NSA comes up all the damn time. As it should.

> I don't see many people calling for the banning of US non-state companies.

People don't call for it because they just do it. It's not controversial. It was half of China's strategy and it has worked out spectacularly well for them because the US turned the other cheek.

> I don't see US students and researchers being ousted out of other countries for being potential spies, even though there's no proof.

If there's no proof, it's really an economic thing, not a spy thing. I got kicked out of Cambridge because my prospective PhD advisor had chosen to fund me with a grant that, it turned out, was exclusive to EU citizens. Outside the US this sort of protectionism doesn't merely exist, it exists and isn't controversial.

> Calling out the CCP, and blanket banning all Chinese companies, are not at all the same thing, or even on the same level.

We do the former because it's right and the latter because it's in our rational self interest. Just like China.


>I don't see widespread criticism against US non-state companies BECAUSE of their involvement with the US

On most threads regarding privacy in FB or Google there will be a mention of the intelligence tie-in. Past sins of the anglosphere or the west generally might make an appearance.

However, I never see users make the leap that these concerns represent anti-americanism or anglophobia.




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