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Agreed. I'm one of the rare folks around here who, despite decades of deep Unix experience, prefer decent GUIs to the command line, and Cocoa really is the best you can get in general use today. The decreasing number of native apps and the increasing number of apps that don't have all the nice little affordances makes me sad.



Same here, that is why I am so critic of those that use 25 inch screens to organize xterms and nothing else, I was doing that in 1994 with twm on IBM X terminals, something better is to be expected in 2020.


> that is why I am so critic of those that use 25 inch screens to organize xterms and nothing else, I was doing that in 1994 with twm on IBM X terminals, something better is to be expected in 2020.

Seems weird to criticize people for working in a way they like to work. The "something better" might just be improved command line tools. I think there's room for both, and different people prefer different types of interfaces.


I haven't used a Mac in ages, so I'm unfamiliar with any unique features of Cocoa over what one gets with e.g. GTK+; what would you say the features that make it better are?

I'm usually a bit skeptical of current-generation GUIs (but then again, I'm ignorant of the Mac world) largely because it's usually so much more painful to extend and compose them. To pick a perhaps slightly unfair example (since it's basically about text processing), I use Weechat for chat rather than Pidgin, since the UI inconvenience of it being a CLI is outweighed by how easy it is to process my chat history, programmatically interact with notifications, and how much more functional Mosh/SSH are than X11 forwarding.




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