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But we also can't say anything because China makes all our stuff.

I happily pay more for things not made in China, when I can.

When I can buy an iPhone that's not made in China, I'll buy it. Even if it means a downgrade.

Several of my family members buy as many vintage and second-hand goods as they can. Not to be hipsters (are hipsters still a thing anymore?), but because they do not want to support China.



AFAIK Samsung makes most of their phones in Vietnam. The batteries are mostly made in China though.

Still, it doesn't have to be 100% or 0% made in China. 5% is better than 95%. Shades of grey exist, and that is ok. But earnestly trying to do better is what matters.


I too go to great lengths to avoid purchasing Chinese made products. It seems that manufacturers and sellers are now trying to hide country of origin labeling, which is absolutely infuriating.


That's great, but we can't get out of the trade situation we're in with personal choices.


Some iPhone are made in India. Are they available outside it, that’s the real question.


Personal morality-based boycotts do nothing, you need to out compete China.




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