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> It feels like the rampant capitalism in the United States, and lack of regulations, fuels the VC economy.

Google, Apple, Amazon, ... are not startups, they are behemoths backed up by the USA government. Europe has many very good startups that are just purchased with USA dollars once they are successful.

> we'd have to adopt the lax corporate regulations of the US

That would only ruin Europe standards of living and open us more to be purchased by USA companies. The other way around is the way. It worked for China. Forbid non-European companies to purchase key software companies.

USA is not successful because capitalism, USA is successful were the government puts a lot of money: Military, I+D.




>Google, Apple, Amazon, ... are not startups, they are behemoths backed up by the USA government. Europe has many very good startups that are just purchased with USA dollars once they are successful.

What I meant was that they were startups at one point.

I could have given other examples but there are so many that it's hard to decide. Dropbox, Reddit, imgur just to name a few. This site should know plenty of VC fueled startups.

The point was not which startups to name as examples, the point was that lack of regulations make this whole VC system go around.

I could never see that system working here because bureaucracy slows everything down and forces corporations to do things like care for employees and pay taxes.

But with that said, recent news shows that Sweden has given tax exemptions to Facebook and Amazon just like everyone else. To curry their favor. It's frankly disgusting.


> I could never see that system working here because bureaucracy slows everything down and forces corporations to do things like care for employees and pay taxes.

Again, you are getting it the other way around. Taxes to invest in education and Development and Research and high qualified citizens is what allows innovation and good companies.


> USA is not successful because capitalism, USA is successful were the government puts a lot of money: Military, I+D.

This is incorrect. The current big tech companies became successful and massive without any special government deals. Google dominated search, Microsoft dominated all business and home PCs for decades, Apple and Google dominated mobile for consumers and businesses, Amazon beat them all to cloud and ate online retail with free fast shipping.

It’s only recently with JEDI that Amazon/Microsoft tried to attach directly to the government’s wallet in a big way. And even with losing that, it will be a drop in the bucket for either of them.

These companies were successful because they were allowed to move quickly and beat out competitors. The entire Internet industry blossomed and gave birth to these companies before the government even took the Internet very seriously.


> The current big tech companies became successful and massive without any special government deals

Where did their finance came from: previous SF companies and angel investors

Where did these companies get their funding from: US government

The current companies are only the "daughters and granddaughters" of massively government funded companies in Silicon Valley


> The current companies are only the "daughters and granddaughters" of massively government funded companies in Silicon Valley

Very good point. Many people forgets how much money the state invest, as it should, on technology and to create an industry. From ARPANET to the WWII computers (or NASA), technology needs a level of investment that only states can afford.




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