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That's a good point. I think immigration is great for the country. And I never mind it my neighbors come from the mid-west or from Central America or wherever. I just get sick of people bashing California. It outgrows the rest of the country at an amazing rate, spawns world beating companies, and then people say it is socialist.


California also has the highest poverty rate in the country when you adjust for cost of living.

The successes of people within a state might be because the state. Or it might be despite the state. I think a lot of California’s success is despite the state’s actions or policies. Reasonable minds can disagree.


Nah. CA funds healthcare, environmental laws, a great public university system, CCPA etc and in general enacts many pro-people laws. Many of these are then enacted nationally. So its disingenuous to characterize the state as obstructing progress when its clearly done the opposite.

The comparison I like to make is with TX. If Texas was even moderately liberal/centrist and enacted commonsense policies (Medicaid expansion, State taxes to fund healthcare education etc) it would do a LOT better. Now, Texas HAS been successful despite its Government doing nothing/actively getting in the way.


> So its disingenuous to characterize the state as obstructing progress when its clearly done the opposite.

If by progress you mean increase poverty then we agree. Otherwise I didn’t talk about “progress” one way or another.

> If Texas was even moderately liberal/centrist and enacted commonsense policies (Medicaid expansion, State taxes to fund healthcare education etc) it would do a LOT better.

Maybe. Or maybe Texas would do worse and their poverty rate would grow to match California!

California is able to pass all kinds of bills and spend all kinds of money because it is a very very wealthy state. Did California policies directly cause that wealth or is Hollywood + Silicon Valley a matter of luck? Or perhaps out of California’s thousands of policies only a couple (such as non-compete) had a significant influence on their economic bounty.




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