1) I don't want shell to be full-blown high level programming language. POSIX, Bash scripts/languages are enough for my shell uses.
2) For anything high level or for tasks shell would become complex, We do have dozens of fully matured languages. I would rather use those instead of this/any shell script.
3) Features desirable for shell include syntax highlighting, autosuggestions,command-not-found helper,tab autocomplete, flag complete. My shell already has it.
4) I like bash and zsh as shell. Bash is simple,i like it,but it doesn't have few features that i mentioned. So,I don't use bash as my main shell. zsh also is compatible with most bash/POSIX and it has all tte features that i mentioned in (3).fish also has these features but it's syntax is different which i don't tend to use. So,i don't use fish. zsh has all features that i like in fish too(mentioned in (3)) .
And that's okay. Personally, I'm thrilled by the idea of a new shell. I don't plan to use Crush in production (yet?!) but I definitely plan on installing it on my laptop.
I'm excited to see how things go. I understand, for a while, it won't have all the bells and whistles of zsh. But that's okay. Everything has to start somewhere. I remember back when alacritty didn't even have easy scrollback!
Best of luck to Crosh and its author, liljencrantz!
I'm curious if you've taken the time to learn Powershell?
It's a supercharged version of bash that works with Windows, but instead of piping character-only data, it can pipe structured data between commands in the form of objects. The reason I ask is because, while it adds a ton of flexibility to shell scripting (to the point where I consider it to be a language), it is also quite complex.
The benefit of shell scripting is that it is simple enough to have as a tertiary language that you can pickup and use after a six month hiatus. Once you get into more powerful language territory, there are a lot more components to memorize and it becomes difficult (for me at least) to keep those idioms in my head if they go unused for months.
> The benefit of shell scripting is that it is simple enough to have as a tertiary language that you can pickup and use after a six month hiatus.
I definitely did not find that to be the case. I've learned and relearned shell scripting a bunch of times. I always forget it and need to relearn it. Worse than perl.
Every time I learn more about Powershell I get more jealous of Windows users. Not so jealous I'd switch back, but man would I like some of those features on Linux. I know it's ported, but it just doesn't have the tooling on Linux and I'll be damned if my standard scripting language doesn't run natively.
> The benefit of shell scripting is that it is simple enough to have as a tertiary language that you can pickup and use after a six month hiatus.
I've been using/abusing traditional shell scripting languages for over a decade now and I still struggle with the rough edges (especially quoting/escaping/argument passing).
1) I don't want shell to be full-blown high level programming language. POSIX, Bash scripts/languages are enough for my shell uses.
2) For anything high level or for tasks shell would become complex, We do have dozens of fully matured languages. I would rather use those instead of this/any shell script.
3) Features desirable for shell include syntax highlighting, autosuggestions,command-not-found helper,tab autocomplete, flag complete. My shell already has it.
4) I like bash and zsh as shell. Bash is simple,i like it,but it doesn't have few features that i mentioned. So,I don't use bash as my main shell. zsh also is compatible with most bash/POSIX and it has all tte features that i mentioned in (3).fish also has these features but it's syntax is different which i don't tend to use. So,i don't use fish. zsh has all features that i like in fish too(mentioned in (3)) .