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Here's hoping the US isn't the one that collapses in on itself this time. My perception of China is that it's government makes life pretty terrible but it seems better organized over there (because of state control).


> seems better organized over there

Until the cracks start opening up. What you see is just them showing their best side all the time. This is not "organization". This is theatrics. You should differentiate between the two!


If we define a "collapse" as the rulers getting deposed by the opposition, then it happens in the US pretty often.

When it happens in China things may get very messy.


I don't think a routine election counts as a collapse. A govt collapse in the US would mean some combination of elections failing, leaders keeping or gaining control through force, and a breakdown of rule of law with a lot of chaos, violence, and disruption.

I very much do not want to see the US collapse; it would not be a pleasant experience. I don't think it's too likely in the near future, but it's certainly possible and these sorts of developments often only seem obvious in hindsight.


A "collapse" in the US would be civil war 2.0. That's what a "collapse" in China was from 1916 to 1949.

Still, a civil war requires the civilian government to lose control of the military or a central military to splinter into regional militias. That doesn't seem likely in the US or China. Another scenario for a US "collapse" would be a military coup or some other end to the democratic experiment.


A lot of what they're doing is BS/Potemkin villages. Imagine everything being built with the attitude that the only thing that matters is time and price. In a country with 1.4B people. Same shitty "if it looks good on the surface it's good enough" ideology everywhere, at every single level in society. Then imagine this has been going on for decades.

No wonder the CCP banned the construction of very tall skyscrapers recently.


You obviously haven't lived in a communist country. It's merely just pretending to be better organised, and yes, state control. People will do things out of fear and because they're forced to but when the central power collapses everything becomes dis-organised and a few opportunists helped by X outside power take control and/or profit.

I sincerely hope that the US doesn't collapse because we'd be left at the mercy of Russia and China.


I think both you, I, and the person you commented on agree on that.

(You probably misread a negation.)




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