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This is silly to use as a blanket statement. There is nothing harmful about hosting a website. Especially personal sites, internal sites, or small businesses who use it as little more than a brochure that serves static content. My roof repair guy is not harming anyone by posting his information on a basic website.



What if I visit your roof repair guy's site and content is injected, informing me that they now take payments online? Or that I can download their special Roof Repair App to manage my bookings? Or it contains an exploit payload?

It is extremely uncommon for me to actually visit an HTTP website - I even have HTTPSEverywhere block them by default, so I'd know if I were. That means that I am relatively protected to such avenues until I visit your roof repair guy's website.


If I was the bad actor I would simply purchase google ads in the name of the target business sending traffic to my own site with wonderful green padlock - it's cheaper and has bigger reach than trying to hijack TCP/IP traffic.

More to the point - if I am running a collection of Karl Marx works it is highly unlikely that he would request payments.


You're describing a completely different attack vector, which is the entire point - to push attackers to different attacks. if we eliminate HTTP, we can focus more effort on the attacks you're describing.

Regardless of the content, hijacking is a danger to users.


It's worrisome that you injected yourself into the conversation between me and my users. How is this any of your business?


I don't really understand your point. You're upset because I am advocating for your users despite not being one? I... don't care at all.

It isn't my business so I've done nothing to reach out to your users or interfere in your website. We're having a discussion about technology on a technical forum.

It is the browser developers' business though since they are tasked with protecting users from these specific threats.


Because he might be a user too.

And are you blocking all Web traffic except from people who your users, somehow? If not, then everyone is your user.




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