On: DHH: The HEY stack Vanilla Ruby on Rails, MySQL, redis, stimulus, elastic search

[deltron3030]

Was AWS unavoidable?

[bryanlarsen → deltron3030]

They're using Kubernetes. I assume one of the reasons for that choice is to make themselves at least somewhat cloud agnostic.

[nscalf → deltron3030]

Maybe it was just preferred? Why is AWS something to be avoided?

[deltron3030 → nscalf]

Well, he lashes out against FAANG quite often.

[cookiecaper → deltron3030]

Elsewhere in the thread it says they have a goal to be free from "Big Tech" within 5 years, but that there are no reliable non-Big-Tech cloud platforms at the moment. Apparently "cloud" was a mandatory part of the platform. ️

[deltron3030 → cookiecaper]

My guess was Azure, because of the Github link to Ruby. But it's possible that AWS has some email functionality they need.

[mr_ndrsn → deltron3030]

No AWS lock in for any email features. It’s Just Postfix.

[jonny_eh → deltron3030]

He lashes out anyone that deserves it, I don't think that means he'd never order a package on Amazon or watch a movie on Netflix.

[rthomas6 → jonny_eh]

Why doesn't Amazon deserve it?

[julianeon → deltron3030]

The bigger question, for me, was: Why not use GCP instead of AWS, if you're running Kubernetes, a Google project that GCP is especially friendly towards?

[t3rabytes → julianeon]

We did! HEY actually started out on GKE.

[julianeon → t3rabytes]

Interesting! I would've thought Kubernetes on GKE would be the one offering Google's platform totally dominated - even if you have a lot of your other infrastructure on AWS.

I'm just getting started w Kubernetes and had seen some comments that I should be using GKE - so this was counterintuitive to me. I guess that once you get set up and running, AWS's offering is comparably good.

[trcollinson → deltron3030]

I think DHH is just pointing out what "HEY" runs on (https://hey.com/)

But AWS is really pleasant to use in most cases. Especially for anything more than a trivial application.

[deltron3030 → trcollinson]

It seems like they provide the most bang for the buck.

[JamesSwift → deltron3030]

Ehh, I'd say they are the worst in that category. They _do_ provide the most robust / expansive holistic platform though. So in terms of offerings-per-buck they are in the lead.