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I'm not saying it is, nor that it isn't.

I'm saying we shouldn't hurl epithets at people for commenting on political concerns that affect them, just because we don't like their point of view. There's a difference between "anti-immigrant" and "anti-H1B."

Look up the definition of "bigotry." People on both sides of the issue should be tolerant of reasonable commentary from the other side.



Did I hurl an epithet? I'm confused here.


Yes, you did. You have now edited your comment to remove the part where you expressed your shock at seeing so many "anti-immigrant" commenters on HN. Don't gaslight.

EDIT: I made a mistake, you made the comment two posts above, not in the prior post. That's why I didn't see it when I came to reply; I looked at the immediate parent rather than going back a ways. But it's right there two posts above, you're decrying "anti-immigrant" commenters. When you set up the debate in that way, there's no consideration of the argument on the other side. You just write it off as being somehow hateful or motivated by prejudice. I don't dispute that some people are prejudiced, but that isn't the only basis upon which H1B policy can be judged. There are tens of millions of unemployed people in the USA right now. Suspension of H1B prioritizes those people over foreign nationals. It's not necessarily a question of anti-immigrant sentiment.


The only edits I've made are for grammatical changes or typographical errors, done quickly after the initial posting as I am a poor proofreader. I am really not sure what you're talking about. My original comment stands that yes, I am shocked to see so many anti-immigrant comments here. That seems like a pretty blandly accurate description to me. No one has been called a name.

Many more comments are non sequiturs about the various shortcomings of the H1B program which has nothing to do with why it was suspended. My comment doesn't label every participant in this thread as anti-immigrant.


I am an even poorer proofreader. See my edit.

You can't ignore the overall ramifications of the policy just because you believe that the policymaker has a particular nefarious motivation.

And you shouldn't box people out of the debate by accusing them of hatred just because they don't condemn a policy that you see as being hatefully motivated.




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