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mrfusion on June 21, 2020 | hide | past | favorite



As has been reported, [1] the doctor at John Muir was speaking off the cuff, and impressionistically. And as it happens, inaccurately.

[1] https://www.redding.com/story/news/2020/05/29/no-bay-area-ho...


I hate that what we did here in the US is called a "lockdown". In my city of Atlanta, I could look out the window any day of the week and see crowds of people out enjoying themselves.

We didn't do a lockdown, and we don't know how a proper one would have played out in our country. We only have data for the half-assed attempt we made.

The only thing I've taken from this exercise is that it's a politically divisive issue and that our nation is in real trouble if we ever have to come to some kind of national consensus.


They are blaming the suicide attempts on stay at home orders instead of the ramifications of having a deadly disease spreading through our communities, scaring people to avoid others.

Without comparing suicides to other countries or comparing states with severe lock downs versus others, the article is just a series of anecdotes and possible correlations.


FEE, the Foundation for Economic Education, is a libertarian thinktank with strong ties to the Koch brothers. This is not an unbiased piece in the least, and we should be very skeptical of its claims considering the wild statements it makes (such as the lockdowns having no impact on the spread of COVID-19).


"Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person'), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that is applied to several different types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically it refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


sighting wikipedia? "An argument from authority (argumentum ab auctoritate), also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of defeasible[1] argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument. It is well known as a fallacy, though some consider that it is used in a cogent form when all sides of a discussion agree on the reliability of the authority in the given context.[2][3] Other authors consider it a fallacy to cite an authority on the discussed topic as the primary means of supporting an argument.[4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

But seriously, OP contextualizing the source is not fallacious, it's an important and useful part of the discourse.




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