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[arminiusreturns]

> seems like law enforcement wants to be able to use digital communication to discover criminals,

Nope. Please remember these words. The surveillance system is about control, not security (finding criminals).

William Binney and thinthread are a great starting place to understand this.

[everdrive → arminiusreturns]

I think that's reductive. I agree that it causes control, and may even be motivated by control, but there's clearly a law enforcement incentive here.

[arminiusreturns → everdrive]

I think the evidence disagrees. I mean I get the on the face justifications, which in Aspen Institute type circles revolves around the fall of the nation state as the threat actor and the move towards a reality where a single non-state actor can be a viable threat, but thats just the surface level justification that makes it palatable to the average person and policy maker.

I think we just have to look at the history of surveillance not just since 9/11 to understand this. Forest and trees and all that.