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> This conversation would improve greatly if less folks wrote long lists of their complaints about universities and more folks wrote long lists of ideas on how to improve them.

It's not a questions of "where we want to be" - there are examples of good education systems which can be used. It's rather a question of "how to get there" - and here America has to figure out the path from here to there, which isn't obvious to some, before it can improve things.




>> America has to figure out the path from here to there, which isn't obvious to some, before it can improve things.

Much like healthcare, there are incumbents who are winning big along the way. I think a lot of the solutions are quite obvious -- it is just there are people who would come out on the losing end and they fight it. And from what I can see, the American people are not sufficiently angry about it to really make it happen (e.g., as they do for more charged wedge issues.)




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