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> > This was in the capital of one of the poorest countries in Europe, but it was still one of the safest places I've ever been.

> Obviously if you put all people in jail they will be very safe there. But then you have less people working and producing more useful stuff than rotting in jail.

Friendly reminder that the US has the highest incarceration rate of all countries.

> The best example I give of this trade off between freedom and safety is that of women in saudi arabia. They have the least amount of sexual violence in the world.

Is this according to their official statistics? How do they know they're accurate and comparable? For instance, is rape within marriage considered a crime and regularly prosecuted there?




The US has the highest incarceration rate of countries from which you can trust the statistics.

That is a different thing.




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