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Clearview AI has billions of our photos. Its entire client list was just stolen (cnn.com)
29 points by Anon84 on Feb 26, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments


This was as certain to happen as a sunrise in the morning. Nobody's surprised

Sadly this changes nothing :(

They will face no penalties. They'll continue with their sleazy work. They'll make lots of money off of their stolen data set (fb, Twitter, and Google never authorized those copies and nor did users)


> He said he wouldn't sell his product to Iran, Russia or China and claimed the technology is saving kids and solving crimes.

Buuuuuuullshiiiiiiiit - the technology got scooped up by state actors the instant it hit the market if this kind of data gets leaked...


How does a list of their customers getting leaked equate to all their technology being 'scooped up by state actors'?


If the law men have to state a reason for doing a lookup [and get fired if their motivation is nonsense] I wouldn't have a problem with it. If we film people committing crimes we should be able to figure out who they are?


The law wasn’t designed with this use case in mind. It’s likely you and everyone you know break minor laws daily just by going about your day. The end result of this is wider application of flawed human judgement in enforcing laws that could be used to punish anyone at any time.

Does that sound like a good idea to you?


> If we film people committing crimes we should be able to figure out who they are?

At the cost of permanent surveillance of everyone? Fact is: If the data exists, it’s being used. And the usage will only expand to lesser and lesser causes. Not to speak of illicit uses. Like law enforcement personell spying on spouses, ex-partners or generally people they dislike or have an interest in.


I know, in a lot of countries law enforcement is likely to abuse the tools but we shouldn't blame the tools for it.

Public servants should be of the highest social standard available. They should be selected to be polite, patient and never lose their cool. Step out of line once and you are out like a bad dancer.

They should be immediately fired and persecuted if they spy on their ex. Every lookup must be tied to a crime. Like you said, if the data exists it will be used. If they can construct an argument to have an interest in someone at that time and day it should work just fine. When in doubt fill out a formal request.

We have control over who gets hired or not. If we hire sub optimal people, train them poorly and excuse their behavior any tool will get abused. Then the whole thing doesn't work.


> I know, in a lot of countries law enforcement is likely to abuse the tools but we shouldn't blame the tools for it.

If there is no doubt that a tool is going to be widely abused, then it's irresponsible to make the tool.

> Public servants should be of the highest social standard available.

Of course. But that's not the world we actually live in.




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