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Hydrogen producing wind farms could be located far offshore without having to tie into the grid. Hydrogen is a great medium for long-term energy storage and is mostly compatible with existing natural gas infrastructure.


Natural gas pipelines do not handle embrittlement from H well.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S245232161...


There are work arounds on their way:

Ammonia—one nitrogen atom bonded to three hydrogen atoms—may not seem like an ideal fuel: The chemical, used in household cleaners, smells foul and is toxic. But its energy density by volume is nearly double that of liquid hydrogen—its primary competitor as a green alternative fuel—and it is easier to ship and distribute. "You can store it, ship it, burn it, and convert it back into hydrogen and nitrogen," says Tim Hughes, an energy storage researcher with manufacturing giant Siemens in Oxford, U.K. "In many ways, it's ideal."

More details:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/07/ammonia-renewable-fu...


Pretty cool stuff. Would ammonia be a drop in replacement for LNG? Or is the assertion that existing LNG infrastructure can be upgraded to handle ammonia at little cost?

Presumably the vast deserts of the coastal Middle East could continue their dominance of energy if they converted solar to ammonia as well.


Ammonia is great. It is also useful directly by farmers, both for fuel and fertilizer.

There have been major advances recently in small-scale (single-turbine) production of ammonia from just current, water, and air. It seems like a much better choice than hydrogen for everything except the next generation of aircraft.

Aircraft need high energy per unit mass fuel, and hydrogen is king, but tankage is huge, so hydrogen airliners would need to be lifting bodies to have room for the fuel tanks.


Ammonia is already a problematic pollutant in Europe, with emissions from agriculture contributing to soil acidification and smog/particulate formation.

With strict EU directives already in place to reduce ammonia emissions, I can’t imagine farmers using more of it would ever be encouraged!


In Europe right now farmers are pressured to limit their nitrogen off gassing due to environmental concern. Apparently too much of it disrupts plants that thrive in low nitrogen environments, and its unhealthy for humans in some way.


Isn't most of the ammonia produced using fossil fuels?


Currently that is the case.

As the article points out:

Most of the world’s ammonia is synthesized using Haber–Bosch, a century-old process that is fast and fairly efficient. But the factories emit vast amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2).

However they have invented a gentler, greener alternative.

A reverse fuel cell uses renewable electricity to drive a chemical reaction that makes ammonia..


Yes, but that is fixable now. Major improvements in catalysts have surfaced in recent years. Much of the work is done in China.


This is an interesting idea - the nitrogen essentially stabilizes the hydrogen for safer and more efficient transmission and storage?


Nearly double energy density of liquid hydrogen???


Many European gas systems were designed for town gas, produced from coal. This has a significant hydrogen component. So these systems can accommodate something like 15% hydrogen.

There are also a number of existing hydrogen pipelines in operation. One of which was first built in the the 30s.


Hydrogen embrittlement isn’t the bogeyman it’s made to be, especially for mass-insensitive applications.

Steel fatigues faster, but predictably so. Ultimately the pipes themselves are replaced with thicker material, but it can be done incrementally and along existing right of way.


> Hydrogen producing wind farms could be located far offshore without having to tie into the grid.

While true in theory the primary reason to do this is to use access production from current wind plants.

There very slim chance you beat

> Hydrogen is a great medium for long-term energy storage

Really not that great.

> is mostly compatible with existing natural gas infrastructure.

Not really true either. There are work arounds but even if those work, changing the infrastructure is still a big task.




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