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That's not what happened here. You're making huge leaps of logic, and while we might do a takedown, we will not "modify" a capture to satisfy a third party.


OK, fair enough. I saw three captures:

   18:02:12
   18:10:22
   18:11:28
And all three showed:

> Uh-Oh

> Unfortunately this page does not exist. Please check your URL or return to the Homepage.

So when jashkenas said that there was content when they posted, I wrongly assumed that the first capture had been altered.

But now I can see that the first capture (17:03:04) was missing when I wrote my comment. And so it's fair to conclude that the others were never altered. Mea culpa.

We do know that the 17:03:04 capture was there when jashkenas submitted "5 hours ago", at about 2020-01-08 22:40 UTC. But it was missing when wutbrodo and I commented at about 2020-01-08 23:40 UTC. And back when hcs commented at about 2020-01-09 02:40 UTC.

So yes, I was wrong about the mechanics. However, I have seen several takedowns, over the years. And I understand how archive.org must maintain working relationships. But the point remains that archive.org is not a reliable archive.

And that's sad. The Internet needs a reliable archive. So we have a coherent history of what actually happened. This takdown has apparently been reversed, but several others never were.

I must admit that I'm curious why the first capture was taken down, and then restored.


Seems to be working now, can you provide any insight into what folks were seeing earlier?


Please see my reply to textfiles.




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