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Last time I checked, comapnies are subject to the laws of countries they operate in.



Not trolling, but is there anything that says they're breaking the current laws in Spain? (I'm from the UK, so no dog in this fight althought I can see our gov implementing it at some point I reckon)

Sure, they're taking advantage of tax loopholes I'd bet but in themselves, they're not necessarily against the law.

They're probably paying all the tax in Spain they're currently, legally obliged to pay at the moment.

Just my £0.02

Edit: Just thought of something? Is there a google.es? If this is what they are talking about, would it not be easier for Google just to bin that one and for Spaniards to be automatically redirected to another Spanish-speaking version, like one of the South American ones?


They're probably paying all the tax in Spain they're currently, legally obliged to pay at the moment.

That's true, but it's also true that Spain is free to change its laws whenever and however the Spanish government wants. If Spain wants to change their laws to negatively impact American companies by modifying the 'loophole' so it no longer works they're completely within their liberty to do that. America using tariffs to protect American interests is also fine. That's just how international politics works.


There's no such thing as a tax loophole. It's the law, and is written specifically the way it is for a reason. "Loophole" by definition implies that it's a mistake, and with the amount of money at stake that's incredibly unlikely.


There are many real tax loopholes even by your definition.

For example, there is an interaction between US and Dutch laws that essentially means that US companies that transfer copyright to Dutch subsidiaries don't owe any tax to anyone on the profits from that copyright (it's something like this: Dutch laws say that the tax is payed in the country of origin, US laws say that the tax is payed in the country where the copyright owner resides).


So all countries individual tax laws interacting with each other is completely "bug free"? Seems very unlikely. Maybe if there was a single global law for taxation, but even then it would have to be perfectly designed.

A much more likely scenario is that not all outcomes can be accounted for, and for those willing to pick through the laws there is money to be made by finding the loophole.

When one is found the politics of changing the law to fix it come into play of course.


I upvoted your comment but I respectfully disagree: If a country has a law that says "you pay X tax using this law/method but Y tax using this other law/method" Google are perfectly within their rights to say, "Let's use Y".

Who in their right mind would say "you know what, I'm going to pay more tax"?

Have you seen the size of modern tax laws?[1] They're utterly gargantuan!

[1]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/13/britai...


It sounds like you agree with me. That's not a loophole. That's a conscious decision on the part of whomever wrote that section of law to basically say "pay the lesser of these two methods."


Not really. The way I explained it wasn't clear.

Usually a loophole is more complicated like the Double Irish with the Dutch Sandwich which requires some complex maneouvering on the part of the company to pay minimal tax.

I run a small business and that kind of thing is beyond my capabilities and would also cost too much but not for Google.

That's what I assumed you meant by loopholes... my explanation of the process was a bit too simplistic.

To me, a loophole is looking through all the laws and saying, "ooh, if we put our money here, then declare this thing, we can show a loss that allows us a rebate on a particular tax" or something... it's a symptom of excessive complexity in our tax systems.

I don't blame organisations for doing it.


Obviously. That doesn't mean the US has to like those laws or cooperate with them


And Spanish companies can enjoy operating under America’s new tariff (law).


Indeed, the tariffs here aren't about spanish exports to Belgium.




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