Contrary to what most are saying, this was an awesome presentation. They kept it incredibly short, gave basic facts about the car (although nothing on the interior), and blew everyone's mind, for good or for bad, with a new truck unlike anyone would've believed, especially putting it against the F-150. Even with the glass shattering, the fact that it didn't go through was still amazing (they definitely have to work on this though). I say it was a mind blowing presentation and I will definitely be thinking through this.
They did this for the Y too. I would have liked a quick run through of the interior and other accessories they show on the website. But it's fine, not everything is finished yet. For example, the Model Y has a 7 seat option and we know nothing about it. All we have is one photo with the seats down.
The camping one is easily the best picture aesthetically.
Makes me think this could be more of a cross target for middle class and wealthier people who drive Landrovers and jacked-up Jeeps. Rather than a country farm's workhorse, which I noticed was a setting oddly not included in the homepage pictures.
Maybe that includes the demographic who would have bought Humvees or more likely the ones who obsess over (or needs) personal safety while driving, ie being the "bigger car in the accident" type of thing people talk about.
I didn't get that impression from the intro Musk did about how the three best selling cars in the US are trucks and how important it is for those to become more sustainable.
Honestly, I was a little annoyed by the hammer demo. The guy swinging was clearly loosening his grip/effort just before impact, compared to him actually putting effort into the previous white door he hit.
The first hit was tentative. I imagine the guy was nervous about whether he might dent it. The second hit was a hard smack with full body weight behind it. I suspose he felt more confident after Elon asked him to hit it harder. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvDOdBHYBw starting at 3:14.
The test before showed them dropping softball-sized metal balls onto a horizontal pane of Tesla Armor Glass from 20-25 feet in the air without any damage, so it set the expectation of impervious glass. Maybe if Musk stated that the glass was meant to just crack but not shatter, it would have made sense, but to me the impression I got was that the live demo on the truck was done on the fly without prior prep (Musk did say after the glass cracked that "at least it didn't go through", but not beforehand).
I think the reactions that Musk and Holzhausen had tell the story. They were not expecting that to happen at all.
Also, as noted in another story[0], the horizontal plane didn't break at least in part because it wasn't fixed rigidly in place, and thus was able to distort.
I think the explanation is much simpler, the guy threw it faster than it was falling in the earlier test. After ~8m (more than the 20-25 feet someone else estimated) the ball is only going ~45 km/h or ~28 mph which is pretty slow actually.
Pretty interesting. The most expensive model tows 14K pounds. Wonder if anyone would try to RV with one of these. Seems like going from RV park to RV park in a day it would work... But wonder about dry camping or even boondocking since state or national parks don't all seem to provide hookups. I'm not sure how you'd charge it then, maybe a generator as not sure if solar would be enough. For a RV park with hookups, probably someone could create an adaptor to hook it up the the 50 amps on the pedestal.
The geek inside of me thinks this is really cool, but wonder what the practicable side of this is. Does seem like something from the future for sure, amazing times we are in right now. Science fiction is becoming reality.
Also wonder if the range when towing would end up being less compared to not towing... I know some people are happy with 7 to 9MPG when towing their RV. However Diesel seems to do better than Gasoline... I know I heard Diesel has a lot of torque, but electric is even better.
I wonder what this means for car accidents. Aren't they supposed to crunch in on impact? Or is that why they chose the door instead of a front/hood impact?
Personally I fucking love it. But I like things that are actually different and balsy. As opposed to minor changes that are easy for people to comprehend.
On the other hand, this is so different that there is a slight chance it is a joke. But I hope not.
Underwhelming, even without the glass demo fail. Looks like it was designed by an outsourced rogue design team trying to design an 80's sci-fi car for kicks, that somehow it made it to production.
The demo was lacking in interior, technical specs, real-world examples of why its design is superior, etc, overall I'd say its Tesla's worst unveil. Though the design of the ATV did look pretty cool - unfortunate it lacked any details.
Luckily I was never interested in trucks so not disappointed by it's lack of appeal, still looking forward to the Model Y tho.
I know Musk is typically awkward on stage, but this one is the worst by far. He seems like he's on drugs. It's not even the way he speaks, it's like looking around paranoid. The car failed the glass demo, and he seems completely out of sync with the presentation and the videos. The audience cheers seem staged, too. Whoever's responsible for managing this did a disaster of a job.
Maybe I'm alone in this, but I think it's kinda nice. It makes it feel less commercially where you worry the claims are dubious and more like someone awkwardly showing you their new pet project?
Maybe I'm just getting sold on the shtick. This is the first of his presentations I've seen.
It's typically endearing for everyone the first time they see Musk present, and I agree with that. But after seeing it enough times you wonder why it's getting worse, rather than improving.
Honestly I just wish they'd give him a clicker for the presentation. He was like this for the neuralink reveal but at least then he had other people talking to add some structure.
Everyone want's to play Steve Jobs. I guess it's an ego thing that makes him want to be up on stage, but it feels like a school presentation and isn't a good look.
That is the ugliest, most impractical thing. Guess I’m not the target audience (I’m rural, farm country). What a let down.... I was really excited for this too.
I don’t think I’ve ever in my life heard anyone with truck say: “Man, it’s amazing off road, but the glass shatters too easily!”
disclaimer I have a 3. Love it and Tesla in general. I don’t love this.
I've known a few people who broke their back window from throwing stuff into the bed and accidentally hitting the glass. It's probably a case of "don't do that", but some people might appreciate it.
This is a good perspective. Though I doubt there’s enough demand to warrant the heavy focus on that. This is a PR stunt, not some data driven product feature.
> This is also ignoring the fact that most luxury pickups and SUVs are also impractical gas guzzlers
But your statement also ignores the fact that many people buy luxury pickups and SUVs in part because they are impractical gas guzzlers. When you look at one of those, the first thing through your head is "there goes someone with a lot of money to blow."
I don’t disagree, but I think you’re missing my point or you didn’t read the thread before reading my comment. slovette felt that the cybertruck sucks because it’s less “practical” than luxury SUVs. I just pointed out that the luxury SUVs and luxury trucks that the cybertruck is competing against are also just impractical
I did in another comment in regards to goose necks. The bed is where it’s at for practical truck use outside urban areas. This design ruins a lot of obvious uses in my opinion (reach ability, tie downs, latter racks, tool boxes, loading and hauling). The slope bed sides are really what stand out as a mistake to me.
I see this being a great replacement for the Chevy Avalanche though
If we’re comparing this to real utility trucks like a Ford Ranger, you may have a point; but IMO the SUV status symbols like the F150 aren’t much better for utility vs Tesla
You haven’t even seen the specs or enough of the truck to say things like reach ability is any worse than a luxury truck
Also if you watched the whole presentation, who’s to say the front and back wheels can’t adjust height independent of each other yet
The only thing other luxury trucks have on the Tesla for now is the look. Its styling is just too forward and aggressive. even though I like it, I can see many people hating it
Haha. Maybe not 20 years... though you are right. My dad was pissed when he had to have his boat and camper trailers lifted so they rode level on his new F350. The same thing all the neighbor farmers did too when they replaced their trucks with new ones.
They all still complain about getting in and out of the trucks when we go hunting together. Lol
We’ll... I have clients, friends and family in every industry you listed. None of them would buy this for various reasons. This is a truck made by city folk, for city folk. Which is fine, btw, I’m just disappointed as I was hoping to replace my ICE with one. I suppose I’ll just have to wait.
> Ford and the rest are going to have to change things up big time.
Actually, I don't think they will, at least not anytime soon and not exclusively because of Tesla. Even if this was a more conventional design, truck owners can be tough nuts to crack. Plus, a huge number of trucks are purchased as stripped down fleet vehicles, designed to be workhorses that are fixable/maintainable by on-site crews. The Cybertruck won't appeal to that large segment.
The fact that this isn't a conventional truck design leaves a huge door for the conventional truck makers to step into with simply an electric version of their existing lineup. Add Rivian to the mix, which looks way better than this IMHO, and I think conventional-style pickups are here for a long while.
It looks like the truck has a lot of inspiration from the cars in the original Total Recall movie. It also feels like a Saab in aesthetics. You will either hate it or love it with little in between.
Was it just me or did the ramp to the flatbed have solar cells on it?
Based on the 6.5’ bed and measuring the image on the product page, it looks like the vehicle will be ~210” long - has anyone seen an actual official number?
They are a mid-sized car manufacturer with a relationship with a rocket company. I am not interested in buying the truck but I'm pretty confident they considered passenger safety while they were designing the truck. And if they didn't the NHTSA requires certain performance in crash tests before a vehicle is roadworthy.
Oh don't worry the other car will crumple enough for both of them. And being a higher vehicle you in your Tesla truck won't hit the bumper but the trunk instead for extra crumple.
Wow, looks pretty hideous to me. And it doesn't seem to even have a proper bed. Not really what I was imagining when I heard Tesla was making a truck, look more like they made a trophy truck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcROXiN_cdE