I am on their fastest tested network in Canada, Rogers. Just few months ago, Rogers upped our prices and dropped our monthly quota to 60 gb/month. That means I can use up my monthly quota by watching Netflix for about 3-4 days.
Yeah, we are getting raped either way. It's pretty much impossible to win this argument as a consumer, even if Netflix wins their with the ISPs.
I used to be with Teksavvy where 200 gb/ month was the norm. I just might have to convince my g/f and get her to switch.
Just to compare, Rogers is $59 for 60 gb/ month, Teksavvy is $29.99 for 200 gb.
Teksavvy won't be able to offer 200GB for $29 anymore now that UBB is a reality (at least for their DSL offering, not sure about their cable offering).
Offtopic, but do you find this especially offensive? (The GP's quote was "Yeah, we are getting raped either way").
If "fucked" was substituted for "raped", would you still be offended? What about "violated"? "shat on"? "murdered"?
I'm trying to determine whether it's the content of the metaphor, the language, or something else which is offensive. (FWIW, my friends use "raped" a lot, and I sense that some are offended by it, so I'm trying to distinguish why.)
I'd like to comment on this too because I've always disliked the term "raped" in common discourse.
I don't dislike it because its impolite, or because its offensive to others.
Rather, its because it conjures up an image in my mind that is too strong for the context it is used. Lost a game of foosball? You were "raped". Getting a raw deal from your ISP? You were "raped".
Unlike murder, 'rape' is more commonly used non-euphemistically. At least at my university, everytime you would go to the bathroom you'd see an anti-rape poster. When you got back from summer vacation, you'd be handed a 'rape whistle'. We also had patrols specifically to prevent 'rape'--not mugging, not murder, but rape.
Because of that when someone says "raped" I think of the actual graphic act. However the term 'murdered' in my mind is far disassociated from the actual act.
Question, and perhaps unrelated, why do highschool football teams have pep-talks where the coach tells them to "murder" the other team. Why aren't they extorted to "rape" the other team instead?
I think 'shat on' is the best one. Shafted is second. People who have experienced or come close to the other things tend to experience the longest and the worse post traumatic stress syndromes from them.
You* shouldn't trivialize a term and crime like "rape" - and doing it makes you look like a clueless, insensitive asshole, because there might be a rape victim who reads and hears you.
Feel free to say "fuck", "shit", etc. for all I care.
Surely if I'm getting "fucked" against my will, I'm getting "raped".
Personally, I think the suggestion that using words in alternative contexts somehow diminishes their power in a negative way to be very silly. Maybe I'm wrong though, and Disney should stop making pirate movies because victims of piracy might be watching.
I agree with your argument as far as "fuck" is concerned, but not "rape"; "shit" is analogous to "crap" and "excrement", and yet it is deemed more offensive and strong, because, let's say, its "power". That doesn't mean it should be - in a decade or two, it will probably not raise many eyebrows, but by then, new terms will come up, because people want to express themselves in the way the people who initially started using the word shit did.
"Rape" isn't irksome because of its power, but its meaning; if there were or are synonyms, they would be just as bad (assuming they weren't euphemistic to the point of complete obfuscation).
To see American news channels use terms like the "F-word", "N-word", "C-word", etc., when they are reporting on what someone said, it becomes farcical. It reminds me of the Fry and Laurie sketch in a courtroom where Hugh Laurie quotes a heated exchange, but has to replace all the profanities with words that aren't offensive to the court, which obviously distorts the picture and thereby completely destroys the purpose of it.
They already say "rape" outright when reporting on it - which they should - because that's more of a quantitative word. The word "rape" shouldn't be banned or anything like that, but people shouldn't become oblivious to the meaning and ramifications of the word.
Thanks! I want to know what you think of "murder" though. Why isn't it the same (or is it)? I feel like someone whose dad was murdered would be offended by the same principle.
> I feel like someone whose dad was murdered would be offended by the same principle.
Actually, my mom was murdered gruesomely. I have better things to do than getting offended too much over people's word choices when I know that they're just venting and not actually trying to insult me personally.
That said, there's plenty of awkwardness when people assume that a person your age should have living parents and you always end up having to explain what happened when you get to know new people.
No problem. I personally don't take offence to people using "rape" like that (since rape hasn't been a part of my life, fortunately), but it irks me when other use it, and I just mention it as a piece of advice, because people might get themselves into awkward situations without knowing it. It's inconsiderate, and that part does tick me off a little.
I come from a country with perhaps the most open mind on free speech, so there probably isn't going to be anything that gets under my skin - I probably use profanity too much as a result.
I only see "rape" on the internet and don't know how prevalent it is in real-life vernacular in English-speaking countries, but it's something I'm glad I don't see that much (outside of StarCraft 2 discussions).
I don't really know that many contexts a vernacular "murder" is used in, so I don't know about that.
Regardless, the victim isn't going to be able to take any offence.
Yeah, we are getting raped either way. It's pretty much impossible to win this argument as a consumer, even if Netflix wins their with the ISPs.
I used to be with Teksavvy where 200 gb/ month was the norm. I just might have to convince my g/f and get her to switch.
Just to compare, Rogers is $59 for 60 gb/ month, Teksavvy is $29.99 for 200 gb.