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Mine have always had no forewarning, no list of items we'll be potentially estimating (so I could, for example, inspect the codebase and see how much work a 1-line description might be hiding) and then immediately afterwards someone more senior usually rides in and throws a bunch more items at the wall.



That seems like a perfect recipe for disaster. We had those, and simply started to say no, that's bullshit. Eventually reality won :)




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