Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

You presupposes that a spoken form is primary and a written form is derivative. While that is true for an origin of a written form, once established, written forms are independent memetic entities, inter-influencing with spoken forms, both affected by different selection and mutation pressures.

> English doesn't do that—instead, it goes with the foreign spelling first, and then people pronounce the word whatever which way since they can't be bothered to look in an encyclopedia, or don't have one on them.

Personally, i much prefer people botching pronounciation of my name while keeping proper spelling, than botching spelling while keeping proper pronounciation.



> You presupposes that a spoken form is primary and a written form is derivative

Not sure how much linguistic knowledge you're putting behind the claim that written forms influence pronunciation, but as far as I gathered from my feeble noob learnings, spoken language utterly dominated word development even with widespread print—contrary to folk etymological intuition. This might be changing only recently, with written communication becoming much more prevalent and especially with English-language web going ubiquitously global. E.g. computer terms may be borrowed into other languages through print first.

You'll notice, however, that even with the web and text messaging around, people keep making mistakes that depend on them grokking language by hearing and speaking instead of writing and reading—e.g. “their/they're/there,” which is baffling for second-language-speakers who had to memorize each word and drill them by reading.




Consider applying for YC's Fall 2026 batch! Applications are open till July 27.

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: